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Scam or not why hide all this ? If they are in trader funding business by offering high leverage + technology etc transparency is a key thing , on one hand claim we have 300 offices and then hide details it is fishy .... and not to mention the past issues with regulators...

So you won;t list them but you claim they exists:sneaky: and what about major jurisdictions like UK or ANZ?

You can't dismiss this as a complaint by failed test takers... the entire thing revolves around are these true prop firms/ hamster wheel nature and real motive of business!

oK SO LIST THE TRADING FLOORS ! and those in main jurisdictions like USA/UK/AUS/NZ/ SINGAPORE/ GERMANY ETC since YOU HAVE some acquaintances there

JOKES ASIDE if you think of what a Ethical Prop firm model is then I am sure the answer you will get is - a Firms which trades it's own money and makes money from success of it's staff traders and not from shady business practices as selling tests or education - recruits good traders on either...

that is too expensive

Have you heard the words "Ethical business" The issue with these so called prop funding firms is about 1) real motive 2) way of advertising by the way in some countries trading vendors need to be licences by regulators it seems in USA they re not so under education selling they can claim anything

" The amounts are psychological as much as they are practical. " E2T lets get to the point shall we ? enough of beating around the bush Your are legitimate business ...so for transparency sake could you please clarify in black and white the following In funded account when you say 50K account...

what about ES?

It is very clear if you check all the criticism leveled against this business model on all forums That -They are not REAL props , - their business interest is simply to make people pay for test again and again or more and more people to take paid test and hope that they don;t have to fund most...

yes commissions , are they $1 + exchange fees if trading with C2?

The Depth of Market (IB calls it book trader I think) though is real native spread bid and ask! correct ?

What are the Comms? on C2 I had heard they are pretty bad !

are you 100% sure? becasue if you are then that means there is legging risk? I think IB does allow you to trade the native calendar spread !

most of pure future brokers do main FCM or their Introductory brokers and popular platform CQG or TT

Based on "following rules" you can;t complaint you signed up for it! rest of your criticism is understandable What is happening is becasue you admit breaking rules all of your other points are ignored by those who support this business model Keep these two things separate

It is not an apples to apples comparison IMHO C2 is copy trade service you just auto trade follow other peoples trading and TST and others are so called Pay test funding

Absolutely true .. after passing the test if the company "is going to pay any profits out from the subscription fees of others " A) it is unethical and B) proves that the "Company" survives on test fees and not on real profits and C) that mean you are not really funded at all and your trades...

are you comparing C2 which is a copy trade service to Pay for test and hope to get funded firms?

"It seems like OneUp/MES have their funded traders initially on a simulator even after funded, " This is the bit i never understood and to me sounds fishy.. what I mean is if after passing a test you are still trading on SIM and then if you make huge profits .. where is the money coming from????