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Most of those "winning systems" dont work if you try to use more than 1 or 2 lots anyways - but it sure gives the paranoids something to talk about

I'm amazed how little most of the verbose posters on this thread know about I-banking, institutional trading or major broker/dealers. Paper traders continue on, even in career advice

This kid didnt go to a good school, doesnt have a job offer and is jerking y'all around. This thread should be locked and junked - just like this kid.

If a $100 coupon for a pc that you're going to use for trading is that big a deal to you, trading may not be for you.

OK, well, if you spent some time trading and making money, you wouldnt have time to chase down every coupon. Do you also ask for a refund if your trade price moves against you? No harm in trying, following your logic.

What does equivalent of $2 million mean? Either you make it or you dont. FYI, $200 doesnt place you in the top 20% of GS salaries.

Why is it honorable to refund the difference? If you bought IBM at X and then it trades down to Y, do you get a rebate? NO!! Stop whining for God's sake.

Carl -- You need to go to a good school, get good grades and then get an offer before starting these threads. You're wasting everyone's time. Your last comment just proved it - now, go back to asking folks if they want their lunch super-sized!

If all the people who post here, actually worked at Goldman Sachs, GS wouldnt have any employees doing any work.

The conclusion I've come to, is that for all the big talkers here about how many points, advantages, etc etc, they all lose money. If you run your trading like any business, and you need to make X dollars, or sell so many widgets to stay open. The most successful, financially, guys I know...

Yet another paper trader who is a paper millionaire. Dont you know its bad luck to talk about profits?

So, there you have it -- hes a former GS employee who has trouble with written English! Or he failed 6th grade!!!

windiff needs to read some GS financials and understand their business abit before making claiming he worked there.

copernicus--your salary numbers are a few years behind the power curve. Your assumptions on top tier b-schools are not valid

Maybe you should go to their website and read their support forums - do a little work yourself.

From the tone and what he has said, I highly doubt carl has any job offers from any tier 1 firms, nor did he graduate a "pedigree" school in Chi-town in 3 years. Nor did he intern at GS. He simply lacks the understanding / knowledge that someone who interned would have. Also, how smart is a...

Not to burst your bubbles, but there have to be hundreds if not thousands of quants out looking for systems, optimizing systems , creating new systems with probably unimaginable computing power to mere mortals like us. If you think you have a secret formula, you're kidding yourself.

Do you guys like it? The optimization feature looks fun, but the rest seems standard..

Just replace it - why bother screwing around when the problem may occur when you need the pc to work.

I've only seen credit options used on big chuncks on accounts, $50mm+ I see your point though, the broker is basically using one set of customers to cover another on risks of blowing up. They must make a ton of money, but I agree with you, their risk is probably quantifianly less than you...