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so is the case with Bright trading but they are regulated and you need to pass S7! how come ?perhaps becasue they trade equity and not futures!

I was not asking for $ I am just asking what %... If you were reliant on trading profits then from DAY ONE you would have proudly displayed that! instead of rubbishing me.. I never said you are scam or illegal.. any way we will never know... as you say Private company..

- If I had the money and risk management I would either start true prop or first loss funding BOTH do not relay on the TEST fee Because in my mind relying on test fees although perhaps not illegal certainly not ethical The "demand" you mention is becasue many are sucked in to this dream and...

It is not a question of fixation.. it si to see if the hamster wheel does happen or not simple logical question to those who think this is great for average joe.. ok then why not look at it? simple maths says there would be a break even point and since you are so much in support of this model...

It is a very valid question going to the core of the transparency of this business model , you just don't want to answer it it seems! All these days you are marketing this aggressively and now you say you don't even know if Helios and E2T are owned by same people! WOW + the "prop" firm is not...

I repeat my question one last time Mr E2T "SO a simple question if Helios and E2 T are owned by same people then the entire business activity: does it make more money by selling tests or share of trading profits ?"

Yah true...Hope regulators start looking at this aspect SOOOON

SO a simple question if Helios and E2 T are owned by same people then the entire business activity: does it make more money by selling tests or share of trading profits ?

"..Earn2Trade makes its money from the subscription fees of the examinations." sure it does becasue you have split it from the funding arm but for general public they think that it is the same firm... and in the past it was agreed by your previous owner that there is common ownership of testing...

-More than 95% of their revenue comes from monthly sub fees and the remainder 5% comes from traders who "actually" are decent risk management traders..LET THEM SAY THAT and see what happens then!

So ,$25,000.00 or $50,000.00 account. real money? or notional? so with a 25,000 a/c with your special relationship with FCM a trader should be able to Day trade say at least 25 ES contracts witha $1000 margin per ES and overnight perhaps 2 ( 12500 margin per ES?)

Can you also disclose ( when you get funded) two things for transparency sake 1) how much in total you spent on test fees with this or any company and 2) How much real $ account you get to trade!

Good point by the way the so called 25,000/ 50,000 is real money or just notional? With day trading margin for ES at some iB @1000 I can fund a trader for 1 ES contract and claim I have given access to $150,000 ! LOL

"..he/she had accomplished something meaningful REGARDLESS if they get funding or not! This defense is getting weird by each post..."if a person passes the tests, he/she had accomplished something meaningful REGARDLESS if they get funding or not!"... sure but one can do that on any sim... same...

What? so who pays the winning traders? if "trades may or may not hit the tape"

Yah sure to save their backside nto to look after the consumer! Regulations are there so that if you take money from people under pretext of anything and then offer a financial product to trade then you need to be scrutinized teh tarders perhaps need to have passed SEC exams etc.. "provide...

Although I take your point canoe... it still has few issues - people don;t stop at 1 test fee so the break even point keeps going higher - "easily use this to run up a funded account.." that is easier said than done, many give up and as the ratio of no of people / no who get funded quickly (...

So who own So Axon who owns the funder Helios? which I believe is a regulated CTA? and idea was there not cross ownership?

Thanks Trump for tight regulations??? he is the one for dismantling regulations free for all is he not? Dod Frank/ reduction of leverage etc was done during Obama administration was it not?

As I said before these "allegded' crimes are not about this business model and nobody is saying that.. as it happens one person seems ( alleged) to be involved in both operations at that time and in any case lets remember innocent until proven guilty and even if found guilty if the activity...