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Going on and on is ok, as long as it is honest questioning. I know society encourages us in many ways to be like that, but it doesn't help us or anyone else. There's a difference between dialogue and debate, the latter includes winning at all costs even if that means being dishonest to some...

No stu, that was a perfect description of how "religion" (depending on what you mean by that) is manipulated, you know the manipulated version, not the real one. I suggest going back a few pages and re-reading.

Not sure if I'd fully agree but partially true. Everyone sees things a little different. IMO the patterns are not as clean but since they are only a guide, they can still serve that purpose but keeping in mind the unique aspects of ES vs other markets.

Sounds oddly communistic, in this new world vision of yours, does the individual matter less than the greater good? Someone must suffer if the rest benefit? Just curious since these are two characteristics of communism. Where exactly does communism or fascism end and "trumping all other...

It's the Orwellian "democracy" where black is white and war is peace and elections are dictated. Don't you remember one country tried to have a referendum, tried to not put up with it? Then there's Iceland which no one is talking about anymore.

Me first? That isn't how conversation works afaik. You made the point without explaining. I asked for an explanation and it's me first? When I receive your explanation for the point you made first then I gladly respond. After hearing your reasoning I can respond to it all coherently. Consider as...

I wasn't sure what the Bible code is so I quickly looked it up. That doesn't sound like the stuff I'm referring to but I'll admit right away I'm not a biblical scholar and even less so when it comes to statistical analysis of scripture! I haven't done any significant reading into it so indeed...

So did that mean we have a productive conversation and you learned something, or is it one of those things where you politely say thank you while internally saying "wow that guys dumb and i'm so smart cuz of all these reason i'm not going to state"? Sorry if that comes across pessimistic, but...

All you do is LIE and TWIST and MANIPULATE. Here is the proof: This started out about who married Cain and who really cares. You quoted Jem and said on page 9 "you are right, nobody should care, adam and eve is a primitive myth, do we care about santa claus". Just above I showed you were...

Yeah, that's the illogical place I thought it would lead to, so let's address the fundamental instead of some wild goose chase? (See, I've been through this, therefore I'm not psychic, I just know where most roads lead since I've travelled them) 1. I didn't build it and it's no more a fairy...

Ricter ... the fear thing is legitimate angle but careful not to make it a one trick pony, to get tunnel vision, lose perspective, fail to see new info as it comes, etc. It's not the whole story even though I agree with it.

Agreed! Absurdities like out of context manipulative half truths that only suit to deceive people of an accurate picture to then try and formulate an opinion out of.

A contradiction is not an explanation. Unless you think you are God you have to prove your opinion as being most correct, or else it joins the cesspool that most come from.

Let me demonstrate your manipulation, here is what I said: "This is about dialogue, not debate. Cooperative dialogue, not win at all costs debate even if that means lying, manipulating and ignoring." You pick out the one word which sounds plausible to say "why should I do this" above. Why...

Is this quote presented as pro-Christianity or anti-Christianity? If the latter as I suspect, it is more out of context rabbit droppings. I said that to start and I'm still saying it and people are still offering it up and I will keep batting them out of the park. Twain was a Presbyterian...

I don't understand how you can say these things based on my posts. What I said was, 99% of people who criticize scripture have never read much or most of it. Everything is always taken out of context. I said I used to do this until I read parts of it for myself, had conversations with articulate...

The type of replies you are giving here would FAIL any high school english comprehension class. You post the above in response to: "Psychopaths are the cause of war, do you include yourself in that class? Because by your own actions, you refuse to participate in reasonable conversation. IF...

You have any proof that I'm a twerp or is that more adhominem bullocks avoiding and ignoring? If you don't care, then you are PROVING you are not here to participate in conversation, that you don't want to hear contradictory information, that you are always right, that you know everything, that...

Competition, survival of the fittest has a lot to do with it. These are all choices under our control. Without these concepts, the natural human reaction is to be nice to each other, supportive, etc. War is not in human nature, it's in the nature of 0.1% which manipulate the masses. They use...