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NEWS FLASH: The SuperMax/zTroll has set a new land speed record ... in his garage ... on a treadmill (sitting perfectly still of course). He argues that he isn't going to claim the record for himself, or even his car, but rather just for his tires. JB

Ztroll, Here's a good one ... Pilot over intercom: "Ladies and Gentlemen, we know you have many choices when it comes to flying and we appreciate you choosing us. We've arrived over San Diego, but will be circling for a bit while our wheels catch up to us. Once we manage to get our...

Hey Ztroll, http://trisports.com/kinroadmactr.html When guys warm up on one of these before a ride, did you know that their speed is actually ZER0? Turns out their wheels aren't going anywhere either. Freaky huh!! JB

SuperZzzz: >you get an "F" for physics 101. notes to >student: state your problem with RIGOR, >less ambiguity !! zTroll, did you know that the steering wheel of your car travels along the same path and at the same speed as the rest of your car? Just checking. ROFLAO!!! JB

SuperZzzz: >you've ILL-STATED this problem, very unclear, no >wonder everyone is having problems with it. What I have stated (directly to you and on the record), is that it's not my problem -- I'm not the author, so if you have issues with it's wording, take it up with them. If you...

SuperZzzz: >the treadmill is moving CLOCKWISE at a certain >speed, the plan'es wheels are moving at a speed >EQUAL to treadmill but counterclockwise. Sorry dude. In your above scenario, the planes wheels AREN'T MOVING ANYWHERE!. They spinning and GOING NOWHERE. The surface of the...

Haroki: >Then you're not as smart as you think you are. I'd be careful in your evaluations of "smart" when you can't generate a valid high school level algebra equation. LOL >Mph > conveyor and wheels. > >lbs thrust > jets and ? Are those also supposed to be some sort of "valid"...

Haroki, your equation makes as much sense as this one ... Solve for X X + blue = color of sky + engine thrust Of course the sky is blue so X = engine thrust. OK, X = engine thrust, so what. All your equation proves is that in fact, you *don't* remember your algebra. Both...

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I noticed a mistake in the snippet of mine you posted above. There is a very important "not" missing... It should read: ***************** The most entertaining thing is reading the posts that INSIST that the plane will not take off because a plane must have moving air over the wings to...

Haroki: >Solve for X: > >X + conveyor speed = wheel speed + engine thrust Hmmm... since thrust and speed are measured by different standards (speed/mph, thrust/lbs) I don't think one can meaningfully solve for X in your equation. It's a bit of apples and oranges. JB

Hydro: You are making a clear statement that whatever speed achieved by the wheels is matched by the conveyor belt. Yes I am, and yes it does. >So the conveyor belt is configured to >negate any speed of the wheels. Uh -- NO! The conveyor is configured to run the same speed as...

Well, at least Surf got it right first try. ;-) JB

Resistance is futile. My computer program discriminates faster than your brain, triggers faster than your finger, never gets tired or hung-over and never gets emotional. It's a grinder. Only way to trade IMHO. JB

Exactly ... the wheels just coast along at whatever speed they need to. JB

Went and read a bunch of the posts from that list (there are many lists on the internet discussing that problem apparently). The most entertaining thing is reading the posts that INSIST that the plane will take off because a plane must have moving air over the wings to fly. -- They are...

I didn't "steal" it from them and have never seen that discussion, though neither do I take credit for authoring the problem. I noted this fact in the linked post. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1654286#post1654286 JB

Stu: >SuperZzzz Are you and I the only two that have figured this out? http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1651174#post1651174 JB

Max: >the speed of the treadmill is set to the >ROTATIONAL speed of the wheels? No. A savy individual will quickly realize that since macal is pushing the wheelchair up the treadmill runway (or in the original problem, the propeller/jet is pulling the plane up the runway), it is...

Max: >maybe i am missing smthg.. You are. >place a wheelchair on a moving treadmill, you >must push the treadmill till its speed is equal to >that of the belt for it to remain motionless in >space, right? its wheels are rotating at a specific >speed at this point. You keep...