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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    1000: >the beams would have buckled from expansion. Rat: >omg haroshi... please shut this guy up... he is spouting >off old debunked garbage. no one believes this crap >anymore. even hiroshi knows better. Yeah Rat, your right -- no one believes that metal expands when heated anymore...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >did they have some special pipe already set up >going from the top floors down 40 floors and >out the window? From the air's perspective, that's *exactly* what stair-wells, elevator shafts and utility plenums are -- giant pipes. Depending on what doors are open etc., determines...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >nothing to see here either: Nothing but the occasional window blowing out due to air pressure building ahead of the collapse. To reasonably believe they are placed detonations, one would have to determine what possible purpose there would be for a few seemingly random locations...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    No one has explained them because they didn't exist. JB
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    TM, these guys have no idea what it takes to normally prep a building for that sort of symmetric demo ... Weeks of work by large LARGE crews -- thousands of mans hours just to make that one moment work like it's supposed to. A: Strip out / cut the larger utilities that can influence the way...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >i mean seriously.. if you really work in this business >you do understand that you want the bldg to fall in >on itself??? right? A: what I understand is that if you wish to claim that a building falls at freefall speed you must start timing at the beginning, when the building mass...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >so the free fall speed and symmetry >of the collapse is just arbitrary? What I say is what the video says ... there was no free fall (well, unless you let the mass of the building get up to speed before you start timing it -- which is what you continue to insist on doing). Jb
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: so you supposedly worked on demolitions I didn't physically "work on demolitions". I was the Project Manager for the entire gig -- demo and rebuild. The Loizeaux's were just one of many subcontractors on the project. Because of obvious safety issues and my position, I was very...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    I couldn't agree more -- except for the water bag part ... totally bogus. JB
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    For my Christians Friends

    v00: >Do you believe oxygen exists ? Yes. >Have you ever seen it ? >Or are you just taking anothers >word that it does ? Yes I have and no I'm not. When in a bucket, it's pale blue (and damn cold btw). JB
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    1000: >I guess there were plenty of people walking about, None during the blast, that's for sure. >with no perimeter exclusion zone, Don't be silly -- of course we had one. >or insurance, Plenty of it. >or protective sheeting from flying debris. Blast mats galore, but...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Hmmm ... someone has been f***ing with you (or you're f***ing with us). I was project manager on a large demo project in the NW a decade or so ago (took down large industrial building and smokestacks) done by the Loizeaux family. Nary a water bag in sight (or on site for that matter). JB
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    For my Christians Friends

    V00: >Lack of information does not prove something is wrong. Agreed. >It only signifies that the one looking for the answer >has not looked in the right place. OMG, what an incredibly dumb-ass statement. If I believe that Bigfoot exists and it doesn't, it won't matter *where* I...
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat to his competitors at the dragstrip: "Dude, you can't leave when I leave -- you have to wait, otherwise it makes me look bad. WTF?" JB
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    RAT NEWS FLASH! "NEW CAR INSTANTLY ACCELERATES TO 100MPH!" (please don't start counting when the light turns green -- wait a bit otherwise it turns out not to be true -- but is IS true as long as you wait). JB
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >but you have to start when all four corners begin, >not the penthouse. Oh, I see ... I can't start counting when the building actually *starts* falling -- I have to wait a bit. ROFLAO!! JB
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >i just dont see how anyone can argue this point, >its a done deal. I haven't seen a clip yet that even came *close* to free fall speed. Until you can post one that is, it's just unsupported BS. Y'all keep saying the same thing over and over and pretty soon you believe it. JB
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    Former US State Governor Questions 9/11 Official Story

    Rat: >so how did wtc7 fall in free fall speed again? It didn't. No matter how many times you repeated it, it still won't make it true. JB
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    The Sustainable Development Forum 2007 - Ethanol and Biofuels.

    Ok, for the sake of this discussion, let's assume that *currently* there is no deforestation being done to grow cane (I'm not completely convinced of this, but that's OK). If the world it going to use more suger cane for fuels, it must be grown somewhere. My questions are these: A: Where...
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    The Sustainable Development Forum 2007 - Ethanol and Biofuels.

    BD: >Essentailly no sugar cane will grow in the Amazon, nor >is it economically feasible even if it would. Brazil’s sugar >cane is grown 100 miles, or less from the populations that >will use the sugar and alcohol. The Amazon is more than >1000 miles too far away, to be economically...
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