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Getting surreal now ? Yes you have an agenda. My answer was eventually supplied to me on page 24. Yet you insist on continuing. I do not require proof of your faith. You have said it is subjective opinion. nuff said. I find myself in Elite Chit Chat room I make a determination by way of...

Optional, Why are you continuing this.? What's the agenda? I have never said and will never say anyone should not practice their faith. All I said was a definitive statement is by it's very nature is requiring verification. What is your problem. You can make a definitive statement and...

That's science in action for you. Always revisiting re-questioning ......searching for truth

Aphie I think you will find that is just a phrase, used to illustrate a concept. Taking it literally and breaking these phrases down word for word in the way you keep doing, does not really further a point. Just my opinion......oh look what I just said. How easy was that to do !

The believer is eating some chocolate pudding and although it tastes bad insists to the person who has never tasted it before that it is really very good. The non believer can see the pudding eater indeed, he tried to eat the pudding in the past and hears the pudding eater insist that...

Just my opinion of course but those sounded rather like statements asserted to be absolute fact. Perhaps just a misunderstanding on my behalf. Now that I do understand they are just your opinion, that seems reasonable. Personal experiences such as Faith not being a subject of fact also...

You needed to wait for the edit. I don't type that fast

we agree It is just an opinion. The definitive statements you make are simply opinions(I am struggling with that as a definitive remark is hardly opinion unless it is made conditional). However you have made it clear they are meant to be opinion.

No one has asked for proof towards whether I have been reasonable or not in stating that definitive statements require more than subjective evidence in support of verification. I asked for verification of your definitive statements. I Put forward what I contend to be reasonable. Rather...

that picture is getting very old hat now Optional . You are reacting inside that very small box you referred to. I haven't won an argument it was never my intention to. I have simply stated what is reasonable. The jury and judge are believers indeed They will surely believe in more than...

Border line with definitive conditional It was your first one though but I expect mitigating circumstances will apply... seeing on how you hadn't discussed this with me before . Good job I was able to point out the error of your ways.

oops... Admitting to the making of definitive statements may seriously weaken your case

"I continue to hold .... You made it.. praise be yes a sentance with the prefix. You didn't just do the ..."anyone can ...definitive stuff well done Optional777 now I am sure that didn't hurt. I rest my case.

Most of your post is a large truisim. You state obvious conditions each to their own... personal experience... i agree, obvious tautology "True for me, " yes ok "and true for anyone who is willing to do the labwork." .......no you don't know that is true. True for you yes . Will be...

"one can verify the truth of what I am saying via the practice of faith." definitive statement ?

No argument. It is your belief. My only contention is and was only that it is not 'the truth'. I only ever disagreed with definitive closed statements such as 'god is the truth'. Whereas 'I believe god is the truth' can't be denied. Also 'I believe god is not the truth' can't be denied...

Gordon, Option has no evidence. He's pretending. To himself and everyone else.

You make them by ignoring a question, so I presumed you would know how to respond. Obviously I am not to be disabused in that respect. oops.... I see I have lost all interest in chidish playground word bites. You obviously don't have better things to do or believe in. I am happy in the...

you took the first one. I guess this is your martyr bit showing now.