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One day if you have time Pabst, I'd really like to hear why you support Israel, or why you think it's so important that America do so. The way I see it, it's clear as the sun: against the wishes of the native Arabs, Jews settled in Palestine en masse; their goal was never to share Palestine...

And with excellent reason, too. To suggest they shouldn't is to simply regurgitate the tired old Marxist moonshine about classless societies that, sadly, continues to feed modern 'sociology'.

Lol. You just won't give up on the 'one human race' angle, will you? Look, these people, these 'asians' and 'blacks' I refer to, self-identify as asians, blacks etc. Your problem is with them, not with me. My point is simply that having thus self-identified, they prefer the company of...

People on average prefer their own kind. Obviously some people are open enough to other races that they intermarry. I don't see what the rest of your post has to do with anything I said.

[/b] There can't exist 'no solution'. This isn't some abstract mathematical problem about which we might well throw our hands in the air over, despairing that 'there's just no solution'. A set of social circumstances cannot but obtain. Thus to call the old order preferable isn't to compare...

This may come as a shock to you, but to me, living in Australia (or to non-Zionists living anywhere), why would I give a hoot about the fate of Israel? For the purposes of our little discussion, a 'pro-Palestinian' position would be one that favors Palestinians rather than Zionists. If that...

I agree. US intervention will come on the pretext of 'preventing a wider escalation of the conflict'. Brilliant move, really. Afterall, few people would have had the stomach for a new round of breathless 'imminent WMD' reports, this time Iranian.

Not really, no. But you don't make much of an effort to explain it, either. As far as I can tell, I'm completely justified in my views.

Whoever said that ending support for Israel would end all Islam related problems? Can't you understand that it would end a great deal of them? Isn't that enough? (Oh, and fyi, southern Thailand used to be an independant Muslim kingdom, which has a teeny-weeny bit to do with it. No, I can't...

No, reality-ignoring do-gooders like you don't get it. And what on earth is intrinsically inhumane about understanding reality? Surely a more accurate understanding of reality ought to form the basic point of departure in trying to improve the world, ought it not? Quite clearly, imo...

Make up for all the blind support we've been giving Israel for decades? Win back some measure of trust from Muslims? Obviously nuking is far too drastic a measure, but a complete disengagement with Israel and support of the Palestinian position would be a clear step in the right direction...

Which is more or less 'eyes of God' equality. Or a legal equality. And as far as that goes, that's fine. But it's also important to remember that there's nothing 'real' about it. People are born with different potential and if potential is distributed differently among different groups...

I refer you to what I wrote above: Can anyone remember America ever having a 'mid-East problem' before Israel came on the scene?

Most people who know who Flew is would know that he left behind a lifetime of atheism by admitting that he'd become a theist a couple of years ago. Understandably, that one of the foremost atheist philosophers would abandon his position rattled atheist loyalists. Atheist leaders rushed to...

Interestingly, though, every time I turn on the TV, the news segment starts with reports of 'Hezbollah rockets' falling on northern Israel and ends with, oh, by the way, there are two hundred Lebanese and - probably going red in the cheeks and adjusting his collar - fifteen Israeli dead. All...

Sometimes I think that nuking Israel might be the simplest solution. What on earth do non-Zionists actually get out of their countries - like America - supporting Israel? Can anyone think of one positive? Can anyone remember America ever having a 'mid-East problem' before Israel came on...

You wonder? Is it not obvious?

Excellent point. The presence of blacks in America has proven to have been a terrible burden to whites. Any honest accounting would have blacks owing whites many times over.

Is it really the crime of the century to admit you prefer the company of Europeans over Africans, Indians or East Asians? Why? It is self-evident that blacks prefer blacks, Chinese prefer Chinese, Mexicans Mexicans etc. Why must Europeans be the only people forced to pretend otherwise?

Clearly that was not the emphasis I intended, but even using that, what is the problem with? It's logically airtight. Just as is the statement 'perhaps 100% of whites are not assholes', ie it is possible that 100% of whites are not assholes. "We hold these truths to be self-evident...