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Olbermann is even further to the left than O'reilly is to the right. I find it sort of interesting to see either guy since they are so obvious. But why do they have to yell? Although O'reilly was the first I believe, Olbermann takes it to a whole new level. He sounds like O'Reilly for 60...

I am still completely baffled why anyone cares. She is 17. Age of consent in Alaska is 16. She can screw anyone she wants. If she was 22 would it make any difference? Most states say 18 is the magic age, but many do not, and its not a national law. Personally, I could care less. If it was...

I'm an atheist you stupid fuck. I have stated that several times on ET. I just thought it was a stupid story since the girl is over the age of consent. I've lost count of the number of times I've criticized the GOP as well as the Dems. I don't like either party. In fact, I've done it...

I'd be surprised if this gets any traction because the age of consent in AK is 16. Therefor, nothing even morally wrong with this picture unless you take the out of wedlock thing. You'd have to toss millions of Americans per year into that category however. Besides, she's gonna marry the guy.

This is my point exactly, thanks for making it. I'll take the industry overall over just the hedgies.

Imagine where US taxes could be with a European sized military, and no interest to pay off. Can you say 10%? Tell me that wouldn't lead to a booming economy. I am all for a strong enough military to keep anyone from even thinking of attacking the US, and strong enough to lend a hand in...

I think both parties have serious problems, but since I get paid in capital gains (futures trader), I tend to go for the guy that won't screw me. But still, both these current parties seem hell bent on spending the US into the poor house. We need a third, seriously fiscal conservative party. One...

Its not just military excess. Entitlement programs eat up even more. There is an amazing amount of waste in the system. I agree that politicians won't cut anything. They may be forced to eventually however.

I was thinking the same thing. If small biz is going to get a break, structure the trading as a small biz. Just reinforces my point how difficult it will be to tax people over 250k, but not small biz. Everyone will be a small biz.

Has he said what he plans to cut? Gonna have to cut a lot to cover the programs he wants. I've often wondered why we maintain troops in Europe and Japan. That can't be cheap. Make those countries pay for it. Just a small example, but one that bugs me.

Problem is that by historical standards, he should have received a much larger boost from the convention. Then you factor in the deep dissatisfaction with Bush, and dipping economy, and BO should be up 15 points min imo. It seems to me that people have already made up their minds for the most...

In my view a good economy equates to everyone doing better. Lots of employees are non essential. Compare an under staffed McDonald's that is slow to one that has more than enough employees buzzing around like bees. This staffing is completely up to the owner. Start pressing on profits, and...

highly unlikely. A depression like situation would kill off commodities regardless of the dollar, but the dollar would prolly be strong vis-a-vis other currencies in such a situation. Other countries would probably get hammered worse. If the US was the only one in the shit house however, you...

Spending has DEFINITELY been the problem, but taxes is not the answer. It could easily be counter productive (weak economy, Laffer Curve effects, etc). We need to dramatically CUT SPENDING. Both parties suck on this issue. Ron Paul had the correct idea, but unfortunately he is a bit of a...

They pay far more than they receive as a % in taxes. Many middle class folk pay zero taxes. Do they earn zero income? Until I hit the 30k level after college, I paid something like 5% of my income in taxes. Of course this was in the 80's, but its the same point. Personally, it wouldn't bother...

You have a point there. I was exaggerating though, which you could obviously not have known. Should have said everything economic that liberals propose. Basically, larger government. Every liberal I have ever seen wants more gov programs. I am prolly more libertarian than independent I guess. I...

When did I claim to be a right wing independent? I don't like either party, but if there is no Libertarian or similar, I vote against the party that scares the hell out of me. It does not make me right wing because I fear what the left would do to the economy. The right has spent us nearly...

Hi guys (vhehn and jonbig04), I have been following this discussion with some interest as its one I've had many times, and I was never able to convince the other party of my view, and vice versa. vhehn, as you state, you can't prove a negative, and there is the whole "how did it all start...