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I know a 1000 lot just moved that damn thing (ZB) 10 ticks up!

November has traditionally been bullish for fixed income but that did not help today I got steamrolled on a basis trade! (long cash/short Ten year futures and got killed on that leg!) Also just looking at the charts a move from 120 down to 112 handle in ZB in a week is oversold to me... should...

nothing makes any sense I watched the Ten yr. futures pop (while spooz were making new highs) while the cash did not move hardly at all and the bond lagged something different everyday just trying not to get steamrolled!

if I were more than an intra-day player I would start buying around here. Just my opinion...

-6 handles in one week, oct 24 zb= 119.29 oct. 30 zb=114.04 as I write this.

nothing to do with bond... click on this link and fast forward to about 2:40 into the clip and enjoy bondo friends! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPsNi1k8Df4

yes there is that difference is basis trading, another site to look at is http://www.espeed.com or http://www.icap.com (brokertech) P.S. that rally today was sick, someone buying 1000-2000 lots at every high (while the Ten year piddled in a 3 tick range!) and the sell off after the pit closed...

TY basis is on full tilt! every one lot I put on is minimum 1250 dollar risk! My P&L whips around like a ... damn I love spooz...bonds are behaving a little better as long as you don't get caught in the 5-6 tick sweepers! ha!

sorry wanted to say that even though the short and long end (2/30) has steepened the piece of the curve I trade- long end has flattened which is why the Ten Year basis has exploded about 40 ticks to the upside over the last 3 days and the cash nob has sold off. Intra-day very volatile with...

with 3 primary dealers blowing out (Lehman, Bear and Merrill) a lot of players are not there (black boxes) it may never go back to where it was a couple of years ago when ZN was 4000 by 5000 and ZB was 2000 by 3000 but that means there are a lot of opportunities with all of this vol if you...

this is crazy $hit bought spooz at 840 took em off too early geez my trade lasted less than 1 minute +10 points then it went another 70 handles! ha! ZN killed ZB is up cause Euro funds out of Bunds and into ZB. It's in a world of it's own! Crazy did y'all see yesterday where it spiked 25...

El Surdo, my boy! Another thing is that the Credit worthyness of the US in tanking (not like Iceland, ha!) it was in the teens recently and has pushed out from 30-40 Basis points that is crazy that is Uncle sam what we trade total panic if you can't trust US paper! Also a lot of supply from...

1999 spooz 1527 2002 spooz 800 I started trading them in 02 when they were in the low to mid 800's less media and internet coverage then, history repeats itself if spooz go limit down tonight wait for flush washout and get long. 2007 spooz 1586 2008 spooz 873 ish right now when a market is...

this is crazy bond cash 4 ticks wide TY cash thin as $hit -futures only spreaders like me. not trading ZB outright right now, weird action. Spooz look fun...

Started in spooz and the nasty 6 years ago. Then I traded basis then stopped and traded outright now basis again but I trade a lot of different futures products primarily yield curve and spooz and mini dow but dip my toe into oil and gold every once in a while.

I had my best month ever, I guess it's a little different since I trade Cash/Futures. I know friends of mine who had 500K days last week if not more! With 3-4 primary dealers in US treasuries gone in the last 3 months there are no market makers who will fill their void? A Euro bank? - no they...

total chaos! Bond futures down 3 handles, spooz 80 handle range bought 975 at the open this $hit is insane the 5 and 10 yr cash has been a tick wide at times!

yeah I saw it talked about on an industry letter today. That ride down was rough also 5 ticks down 4 ticks up all the way down, glad I was green! I thought last month was volatile these markets today are too much, I want it to go back to a month ago.

damn this $hit on tilt yesterday no bid today no offer you can get destroyed so fast and when they come for it they do not stop for 30 ticks!

The YIELD sure went up today. -2 handles+ no reason to call anyone names, the ZB went up because the bailout package failed it came right back to where it was before the bailout vote failure. We'll see what happens going into next week. If they do this package it will add so much debt...