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After simplicity so.... 1. In range: play limits one point away from the level w stop one point above level. (2pts might be better or some combo but we'll see). If we poke below so be it the entry won't be triggered yet. In range reversals taken care of. Simple and again if the behavior stays...

Question and I know there's no real answer to this but is it wise to play a situation like 86 (in the long run of a trading career) with those other high points above? I don't have stats on this or anything but my gut says there are far better plays and the odds of getting stopped out with...

That's a nice thread also for anyone interested. Doesn't take long to grasp the concepts.

I looked at the ndx that high is 48. Maybe that's what happened lol.

Ehh 3 and 8 look similar lol. Hey they are both Fibonacci numbers hahahahaha.

Yes 11/28

Maybe I'm blind but I have 43 not 48???

Real time but sim.

Haha. I caught that. :)

Honestly I think I've just been a big baby...seeking something that I will never find....utmost certainty. Everything I've tested has a positive expectancy with the average winner multiples of the average loser but my winning percentage is what was troublesome to me. The one thing that I left...

Yea I suppose getting to 22 was a fluke too. Hahahaha.

Good stuff thanks. Focusing on the flow makes this so much more interesting lol. I feel like a "tape detective."

Yes I understand. For me I'd rather see price not fall back toward the mean. Why? I dunno is that fearful? Since we moved sideways btw 80 and 84 and then "broke down" I'd be skeptical. However that "dog" would allow for re-entry. Sort of reminded me of a shakeout of sorts. Price then traveling...

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I was just asking if at 1:56 you consider that a dog?

Well we tested the mean then traded back out of the original range only making it back to 84 before trading back down making a higher low. Maybe my terminology is incorrect. Is the range itself no longer valid? I had the range high at 79?

Would you consider the higher low after the initial break back out failed, a dog?

Mean of the premarket range?

It's amazing how that seems like such a duh but that thought never once crossed my mind.

Makes sense. I was anticipating getting to 00 if we traded above 86. Just was taking longer than expected. But here we go now.