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What exit ? do u call a big chance like this : he could have managed his exit better ?! he is in already , i missed the trade because it was fast couldnt even get in , i am bearish on Silver 2 i was looking at long term options ... I felt bad for the guy no more ...

I felt bad that i missed that one

No it is not possible or atleast it's tricky and it isnt easy , anyway the 25000 daytrading rule applies to options as well .

u cant invest 7k there isnt enough volume ...

You are a fool i am sorry , couldnt u keep atleast one ?! do u really need those few hundred bucks ? u will lose them in the next trade , fu*** !

looking to start buying ZSL , but these leveraged etfs doesnt sound well to me ...

I am bearish on Silver and it will go down , but we could see 70 $ which will be a great opportunity for Silver bears , i would go with put options on a situation like this ...

I am looking myself at AGQ puts , but i am looking at Jan12 puts , any ideas ? which is the best way to participate in a silver drop for the long term ? AGQ puts , SLV puts , buying ZSL etfs ? looking at Jan13 puts as well , mmm ...

u r angry from China :D

EXACTLY !! :D

agree but still there is useful information in the table , i think for him market makers is a loose term includes scalpers at that time ...

For information purposes @ parasitic traders ( front runners ) : profit from : large , slow traders , stale limit orders traders , market makers , upstairs traders . Trading style loses to : Informed traders , Bluffers and manipulators ...

You r faster than others u know what u r doing ( as a front runner i mean ) otherwise i dont know u well ... Correction

Good luck for u , thanks for your post anyway ...

The original post as i stated b4 is not mine but i found it useful ...

But this is irrelevant to this thread , i think there is some misunderstanding here ...

What r u talking about ? There is no dilemma for me and there is no disrespect to anyone here including yourself and nodoji ... Your strategy is not static clear pattern on the chart that everyone could follow and make money , there is no such thing . You r faster than others u know what u r...

Good for u Now u profit from : Uninformed traders ( unskilled traders ) And you lose to : value motivated traders , Informed traders , Bluffers . This what is meant by look who is on the other side , u can make money on these patterns but u have to look behind the patterns , filter...

@ the other side : If u make money , u should think from whom exactly u r making money , check the table at the end of the doc please , and tell me where "clear repeated setups" fit ... http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~lharris/ACROBAT/Zerosum.pdf

whats wrong with the post ?