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Be careful about where you get numbers for downer cows. PETA and others notoriously wiggle the figures. They are exceedingly rare. Look at the economics for the livestock owner. Why keep and elderly unproductive animal to the point she has to be disposed of in this way. Ambulatory and healthy...

I agree with your point of not confined to the elderly but I said "primarily". It certainly is in bovines but that may be due to the incubation period being so long and the bovine life expectancy being so short. The USDA is testing downer animals so if the incidence should be high anywhere it...

[i'll have a salad please] ___________________________________ Organic or inorganic? Imported or domestic? Inspected or not? Cooked or raw? Washed or natural? Treated for freshness or not?(alaron)

_______________________________________________ I do not dispute what you are saying. But please read what I am saying. The condition is out there but we don't know yet exactly what causes it. It is a condition pimarily of the elderly in all species. The forms of the prions are different in...

http://www.cultureshop.org/details.php?code=PURDEY ___________________________________________ techstaion- In light of British panic over mad cow, their Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee has been closely studying and monitoring these diseases since 1990. On March 20, 1996 it...

__________________________________________ Exactly! No proof just evidence that prions cause BSE and or vCJD but that is only in their own specific species. Absolutely no evidence that prions in bovines cause prions in humans or transfer to humans since they are different prions to begin...

For the veggie lover ( I actually love both) 1. Were your favorite veggies organically grown? (fertilized with manure from BSE cows or peed on by wild deer with the same condition, or fertilized with bone meal, and other tankage products from rendered sick animals)(next time you are in the...

__________________________________________ I agree with you totally but I believe what the 120 people worldwide have is vCJD not BSE. It is a human similar condition but what I am asking is proof that one causes the other and as far as I can tell there is no known connection.

Still nothing even close to proof to my questions. Just links to PETA socialist propagand sites. However for the veggie lovers. How long ago was it that there was a hepatitis "a" outbreak that sickened 550 from eating imported onions. There is a proven link not just wild speculation.

Entirely speculation, theory, debate. Still nothing even close to a difinitive answer. They aren't even sure whether it is prions or viruses. There is also no proof bovines get the condition from eating other bovine prions. How do the wild deer spread the condition by eating one another when...

Could you provide me with a link to a difinitive answer as to actual proof that consumption by humans of any misshapen prions form other species causes the natural prions in humans to become misshapen?

The problem for the cattle industry is their immense size and no agreement on what to do about anything. Over 65% of the millions of cows in the US are in herds of 25 or less. So how in the world do you get that many people to agree on anything. The national organization makes a statement to the...

______________________________________________ You have it pretty right. I will guarantee you they are looking for the feed source where the cow got the condition as well as all the other cattle that came in with this cow. I can also guarantee the Canadians are looking for the feed source and...

tradenut - I have heard of the theories mentioned in your link and I thank you for that link. I think that that connection may not turn out to be the answer but it is certainly a step in the right direction. This would fit many of the deficiencies in the BSE to human transfer links. If this...

In light of British panic over mad cow, their Spongiform Encephalopathy Advisory Committee has been closely studying and monitoring these diseases since 1990. On March 20, 1996 it noted 10 cases of human CJD that occurred in younger people and lasted longer than typically seen. Besides the fact...

tradernut remember the disease takes a few years to show. Would you like to take a chance? ____________________________________________ The sheep form of the disease has been around since the mid 1800's surely it has had time to appear in humans. I am OKAY with one chance in 40 billion or...

Lets get real. Read the following link and do your own risk analysis. http://techcentralstation.com/122903F.html These conditions in animals have been around for many years and the link of a transfer to humans has never been verified. A question I have asked for some time is. With the...

total180 Correct. The story died along with any proposed DNA tests, and if I recall correctly, there was no further US cooperation in tracing the source(s). Who's to blame? US or Canada? Isn't it again too early to point fingers? At that time Canada took the blame and suffered the costs. If...

_______________________________________________ I have known about the Mad Deer for quite some time and it is a real problem. The captive deer could have eaten rendered remains but what about the wild ones? The mass slaughter of, I hear, 20,000 head in the upper midwest was of wild deer. You...

total180 Doubter you spew unsubstantiated rumors (for now) to what end? Deflect blame towards Canada? Why? The same statement can be made to imply the BSE was originated in US and imported to Canada. Now, do you understand your nonsense...