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You may be right or you may be wrong. Unfortunately, no one knows. But as someone who's supported the free market his entire life, I'm no longer an idealogue. I'm not accusing people of being socialist or communist or marxist. I just know that our system is definitely broken and we (maybe...

I was going to write something in response, but this op-ed piece sums it up. It's too bad that the best, the brightest, and the richest in our country caused our economic collapse. Rick fails to mention that...

This argument should be dropped from ET. Every great engineer, artist, doctor, lawyer, mathmetician, etc. was taught by a teacher. Some teachers are good, some aren't. To say that great teachers are failures in the subject matter that they teach and therefore, there is nothing to learn from...

I agree with you BC99. Proper training and education is the most valuable tool one has when entering any profession, including trading. It doesn't guarantee success or talent, but it's the starting point of any career. I have received some valuable info her on ET and I have been insulted...

Did you trade with them at their shop or remotely? Did you have experience before you traded with them? You don't seem too enthusiastic, so I suppose that you have some comments. You can PM if you like.

I'm interested in finding out more, too. Please PM me if you don't want to post more info. I like the fact that you'd be around more experienced traders. It's not training, but it's better than a lot of places.

Browncoat, Did you ever find out anything about M and N? You can PM me if you'd prefer.

Anyone trade with them? Any feedback would be appreciated.

Were you mentored? Did they have a training program?

Anybody work with him as a mentor? I've asked before, but only heard back from those who don't believe in teachers. I'd like to know if someone on ET has actually worked with the guy and what you think of him. I heard from two other people with completely opposing views on his...

Is there anyone here who trades as a remote trader with Hold Brothers? Or someone who trades with them in their branch offices? I'd like to get your feedback.

Has anyone attended their seminars in person in Los Angeles?

Anyone read the book DeMark Indicators, by Jason Perl? I've already read a ton of books on technical analysis, including the classic Technical Analysis of Stock Trends, but I'm always ready to read another good book on the subject. If you've actually sat down and read it, I'd like to know...

Has anyone traded with them? If so, what do you think? I'm looking for feedback from someone who traded with them recently or is currently trading with them or has moved on to another firm or to trade for themselves. You can PM me if you'd prefer.

Tell me about cygroup. I've heard mixed things about them.

Ironfist, I'm unsubscriting to this thread as when I get alerts now, it's mostly BS posts, but I wanted to thank you for starting it. If there is a way to really focus on the methods of trading using PA, I'm always up for learning more, but,maybe that needs to be done in a different...

I've become more interested in trading pure volatility. Can anyone give me some suggestions on that front? I don't mean trading the VIX, but I mean trading the fact that the market will move a certain percentage over the course of a given timeframe.

It's called Miltch Trading. They're in Los Angeles. Someone recently brought them to my attention with a glowing review. I'd like to know if anyone else has either gone through their two week training course or heard anything about it. Thanks. http://www.miltchtrading.com/eng/index.php

As I said in earlier posts, it doesn't make a difference. It's just a personal preference. If candles work for you, then use them. IronFist was exploring so I made a suggestion. In the long run, he may end up using candles. For me, and this is just me, I used candles andm when I switched to...

Agreed. One hundred percent. So anyone who wants to offer us training just needs to do a demo, then I think both IronFist and I will be glad to sign up. But, in lieu of that (meaning paying for a proven teacher, not necessarily a proven track record) picking up tidpits is better than paying...