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Nope. Well, as it turns out, the above is also exactly what is needed to go DDWFTTW (directly downwind faster than the wind). Compared to the street in a tailwind, the treadmill in still air is not "similar", it is not "analogous", it is *identical*. I'll demonstrate. Throw the kids...

It doesn't imply that, and we don't imply that. The device is powered by the relative motion between air and rolling surface. Shut off the 'wind' and the device stops. Yes we do. JB

I have built, and can demonstrate on demand a vehicle which can travel directly downwind, faster than the wind, powered only by the wind, steady state. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjt6G8D4x0k

Remember the POAT (plane on a treadmill) thread from a year or so ago? Got another one: Can a device be built that can travel downwind, faster than the wind, powered only by the wind, steady state? JB

I believe Biden will cost Obama the election. Nasty baggage with that guy. JB

I have held the above position for decades. I can't imagine why we would want to use ours at this price level. JB

jem: >its that I love our country because we don't have >to fear being shipped off to a gulag without recourse. You go jem. JB

I agree with the ruling, and I also agree that it's a close issue as displayed by the close 5-4 ruling. JB

What an ignorant statement. JB

Rat: >do you tell Jesus jokes? My favorite cartoon: Jesus as a teenager running out the door to catch up with his friends. As he leaves the door wide open behind him Mother Mary yells at him -- "Jesus Christ! Were you born in a barn?". JB PS: Don't get your hackles up too far...

ROFLAO! -- apparently you can't recognize sarcasm. The link made it painfully OBVIOUS that if the oil companies are selling their retail outlets, it can't be very profitable for them. Dumbass you are. (times 2, as I've never voted for a Democrat in my life). JB

In spite of this HUGE profit that gas stations can make, it seems even THAT isn't enough for ExxonMobile. http://www.thestreet.com/s/exxon-mobil-to-exit-retail-gas-business/newsanalysis/energy/10421177.html?puc=googlen&cm_ven=GOOGLEN&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA JB

Did you know you can skip the gasoline and just run your car on water. Well, I heard that anyway. (from some guy with a website selling the getups for a couple hundred bucks). JB

Bernie: >What is with this cat and mouse game between >you and Turok? >The two of you don't even seem to have >ideological differences. LOL ... I do hope that last statement isn't a representative example of the quality of your research. JB

Man, I disappoints me so that we keep learning things. In fact, I'm so disgruntled with this increase in knowledge that I'm going to do the clear and right thing and accept that there is a single book, written by ... (well, we're not really sure much about it, but it was written at least)...

Jimmy already gave that one up -- a few years ago. JB

Well, I guess if it's on YouTube it must be true. JB

V00: The "Chinese Care for Growth Society " needs your money to help the Chinese people. No need whatsoever to check with the BBB or InterAction.org, and for certain, don't go here: http://blogs.consumerreports.org/money/2008/05/charity_scams.html Just give to the "Chinese Care for...

Me: Non-responsive. V00: >So it is a possibility LOL ... so, Sync asks a question, you give a non-responsive 'answer', I identify it as such, and your conclusion from that exchange is "So it is a possibility". ROFLAO! Talk about a classic non sequitur. JB