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Bodybuilding has diversified? No it's become singularly focused- ON Mass. The sport has devolved since the earlier days, the deaths are the evidence.

When Physical Culture left bodybuilding, it was the beginning of the end.

Saved him from a life of continued poor choices.

True, but the BDB, Side Chest and Most Muscular pose has Arnold waaaaay ahead of Haney. Let's not discuss calves.

The guy on the left. The Austrian Oak

Down 17 pounds since May 2. BP not down except with tiny dose of Lisinoprill :(

Not for my money. https://www.google.com/search?q=arnold+vs+haney&oq=arnold+vs+haney&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l2j0i390i650l3.5593j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c6b0a0ac,vid:4IEmjwLCTes

That CNBC story is hilarious! Invested the money he made in bodybuilding in the 70's LOL There was no $$$ in bodybuilding in the 70's or even now, unless you're the promoter. There were other ways a bodybuilder could have made money back then, but let's be real, he said he invested 100K...

With the help of his "friend" Paco Arce. :(

I like that too! Must be the German-Hungarian in me.

Thanks, I see that 120 Life has a hibiscus component.

The hits keep on coming. Couple of weeks ago, I took a knock to the melon and got a few staples. All good. Now, the doctor doesn't like my BP. So for 10 days now I've severely restricted my sodium intake and eliminated caffeine. For a week I've been drink a glass of beetroot juice and the BP has...

I guess I'm stuck at the same old crossroads as everyone, dropping weight while retaining muscle. I guess at my ripe old age endurance training might be the way to go. Nobody wants to see a 63 year old w/o a shirt anyway! LOL

The 65 deadliest cities https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/57/ 1-10 All Democrat Mayors 44-65 17D, 3 R and 2 I Can you solve the puzzle?

You got your wires crossed fella, I have no idea what you're talking about.

75? Nope 63 and all natty for life. You?

Nope. Belly fat really isn't a big issue, just looking to get lighter but not at the expense of giving up the iron.

If I train almost exclusively with eliptical, rope pulls, bodyweight, running... the pounds come off. If I split the program into a greater % using weights-same intensity etc. the scale does not move.

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Question for the group. This my 50th year of weight training-was a beast in HS and College. Then life intervend and I trained for strength and fitness. The last few years, I've noticed that when I include a good amount of lifting the scale goes up. Fitness is good, strength is up, looks are...