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that's fine, I respect your belief's. I only argue where you state them to be absolute truths. They are your truths and they are worthy for that alone, but they cannot be literally absolute.

btw I meant that more as a rhetorical query than a statement :)

but darkhorse..... from the logic you use your last mile can be nothing more than a presumption :)

Thanks for your post Darkhorse (and I dont't mean the Fonzie one :) ) Nice to see you again as it were and what an interesting and thought provoking analysis you make. I for one find it illuminating and fascinating and I find myself agreeing with a lot of it's content. In my rather clumsy...

lundy, Because your God doesn't tell us the answer, presumably he gave us the bloody intelligence to measure it. :D

mmmm I see what ya mean Mike777 like in Dark instead of Light maybe ?? :)

no problem rs7 would ya just make that in *general* education though, just a bit nervy about being made an example of in religious education There is always someone trying to do that :)

rs7 Page 7 eh.... so far back like looking into a previous existence. :) I feel I have gained a lot from being able to study in other places and have access to some really inspiring thoughts posted on this thread. I surely now have a better place to stand and view all the...

.......yeah ya missed me Commisso :D

Kymar Well for me, that just summarises the whole debate. An excellent piece if I may say so and it's posts like yours which in my opinion represent the nuggets of intellectual and concise thought that make this board so intersesting and educational. (Along with mine of course lol) :)...

"So I can say that I have 'absolute certainty' because I have developed a panoramic perception of reality in which all truths stand together. Just as you cannot truly isolate a single factor in a multiple variable cause or effect, you cannot truly isolate a belief about something as complex and...

dark, just to say with all respect to you ...... the quote was not 'certainty'.... but 'absolute certainty'. I am sure everyone has been absolutely certain about something important only to be proved wrong, I know I have. Now I've learned that, I don't say I have the absolute certain...

Amen

you bet good luck to you, I wish you no harm :)

strange that you should say that darkhorse, everyone I meet tells me the same :cool:

bingo :D

Now you really are going over old ground. No I am not your Faster spectre Keep the insults going you' re lost in your debate without them