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Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 SUPG 3.22 MCHM 1.32 2 BELM 3.69 LUME 1.91 3 CRIS 1.30 LMNX 5.95 4 EMKR 2.00 STAA 7.06 5 SOI 1.20 DPAC 1.19 6 VLNC 2.81 FWC 1.64 7 RMTR 2.04 EMT 1.40 8 SPPI 2.20 BITS 2.00 9 USG 5.21 RYG 6.36 10 ANSR 1.86 VPHM 2.15 Time: 4/15/03 3:35 PM zorak

DAY LONG SHORT ALL 4/14 5.87% -3.09% 1.39% Total 4.93% -0.50% 2.21% zorak

Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 CRIS 1.40 MCHM 1.27 2 ZICA 1.76 LUME 1.74 3 SPPI 2.20 FWC 1.64 4 ITXC 1.51 VPHM 2.14 5 SOI 1.24 STAA 6.65 6 TTP 1.45 DPAC 1.13 7 QRSI 4.35 NTPA 2.02 8 PRKR 8.30 CNET 2.98 9 CRDS 1.20 KANA 5.10 10 BELM 4.06 TLCV 1.66 Time: 4/14/03 3:30 PM zorak

DAY LONG SHORT ALL 4/11 -0.13% -1.71% -0.92% Total -0.94% 2.58% 0.82% zorak

Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 CRIS 1.46 ADAT 2.39 2 TTEC 3.70 VLNC 3.10 3 MEH 2.45 CNET 2.92 4 CMRC 2.20 PRTL 2.93 5 WAVX 1.00 LUME 1.50 6 PRKR 8.41 MCHM 1.00 7 TLGD 13.13 NTPA 1.92 8 CRTO 5.03 AVII 4.00 9 SRT 23.72 CTLM 5.03 10 SPWX 2.36 USG 6.01 Time: 4/11/03 3:30 PM...

I realized later that I actually do use a stop on shorts in my real-$ trading...but it's been awhile since I coded them in, so I forgot about them. I watch that each short I own adheres to a certain % of my bankroll...if a short starts to go against me, it becomes a larger %, and some is...

The past results do include some horrible shorts...but the averages are still over 1%. [B] This could be a good idea...thanks! zorak

Both are true. I'm still waiting for advice from a professional experienced trader. [B] Good. I didn't think it was possible, but I found someone who knows even less than I do. But, thanks for your contributions. I guess. zorak

DAY LONG SHORT ALL 4/10 1.40% 1.49% 1.45% Total -0.81% 4.29% 1.74% zorak

Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 MEH 2.58 USG 6.05 2 CMRC 2.20 ADAT 2.25 3 CRIS 1.55 PGTV 20.05 4 TTEC 4.13 MICC 8.69 5 GZMO 1.52 GTI 2.79 6 FWC 1.21 GRA 2.08 7 ENMD 1.01 FPIC 8.65 8 DTHK 2.30 CNET 2.71 9 DATC 1.32 VICL 2.64 10 PDYN 1.25 ASTE 8.13 Time: 4/10/03 3:30 PM zorak

The paperport does not use explicit stops, no...the system itself provides a measure of stop-loss, by stating that any held position not on the current list should be exited. For that matter, in my high-volume real-$ trading, I don't use explicit stops either. [B] Then stop reading (or...

DAY LONG SHORT ALL 4/9 -2.93% 6.04% 1.55% Total -2.21% 2.80% 0.30% zorak

Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 EGLS 1.48 ZICA 2.03 2 MTZ 1.97 USG 5.56 3 SPPI 2.28 SCON 2.20 4 TTEC 4.35 MTSN 2.40 5 GTCB 1.20 WAVX 1.14 6 ASF 5.26 MICC 8.39 7 VPHM 1.66 TLCV 1.51 8 ELP 2.69 GRA 2.03 9 CRDS 1.28 PGNX 6.60 10 PDYN 1.25 TUNE 2.45 Time: 4/9/03 3:30 PM zorak

These aren't such small stocks anymore...remember I did take TrendFader's suggestions to filter out the truly low-volume picks. I'm not sure I see why trading the shorts is significantly more difficult than trading the longs. I don't know enough to be able to distinguish between a 'severe...

Would "forward" testing be useful? That is, the accumulating results of the lists I've been posting. No backfitting problems there... zorak

4/8 -1.19% 1.23% 0.02% Total 0.72% -3.23% -1.26% zorak

Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 MDR 2.27 CMRC 2.64 2 SPPI 2.82 WAVX 1.12 3 EGLS 1.61 KLM 7.83 4 SBAC 1.19 ASIA 4.90 5 ASF 5.63 MTSN 2.37 6 TLRK 4.67 MEH 3.15 7 PWR 3.60 PRKR 9.99 8 TTEC 4.63 EMKR 2.72 9 EDSN 1.03 CNET 2.68 10 VPHM 1.75 TUNE 2.43 Time: 4/8/03 3:30 PM zorak

4/7 0.65% -5.81% -2.58% Total 1.91% -4.46% -1.27% zorak

Rank LONG Last SHORT Last 1 MDR 2.48 MEH 3.23 2 ARDM 1.06 PGNX 6.43 3 PLXT 2.37 GGNS 2.37 4 ARIA 1.39 PDII 9.43 5 SBAC 1.24 PRKR 10.10 6 VWKS 3.42 STAT 6.16 7 TTEC 4.93 CANIE 2.71 8 PHMD 1.35 CMRC 2.40 9 VVUS 4.41 AWA 2.77 10 NETE 3.40 DGIT 3.21 Time: 4/7/03 3:30 PM...

It's pretty similiar. Lists are generated, and I put an equal $-amount into each position. Other than choosing stocks with higher volume, can you think of anything that would make these lists more tradeable? Is volume the only reason you don't think this portfolio can generate returns...