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I hear what you're saying but in order to bring on unlicensed guy that's the way it has to be structured.... Otherwise you'd have to have a minimum of 25k at all times in your account.

Your 5k is gone in essence. Trust me when I'm telling you that your training fee acts both as tuition and risk capital. It just can't be stated as that. It doesn't matter if it's gone before, after or in the middle. That's what trading with, and when you go thru that mone, unless you show...

It's not a scam, just a grey area.

yeah i agree with you.... that platform needs to be updated into this millenium

YOU SAY "But don't start sentences about a firm with "I think..."" Ending them with I could be wrong is equally as bad CBSX, I know for A FACT that they clear thru Hold. Sterling is a stand alone platform that only provides an execution platform which then reports your p and l to the...

Another thing I forgot to say.... Too many people are concerned with why traders would waste their time teaching and not trading. And whether or not teachers are in fact good traders themselves. NONE OF THIS MATTERS. Bill Parcells wasn't a great football player but was an incredible coach...

cstfx, Do you currently work, manage or own this keystone group? While I completely agree with what you're saying about doing your research and not having to join a firm you don't like, I do have a problem with the fact that these particular set ups, NOT TALKING ABOUT KEYSTONE IN...

Mr. Moose, that might be one of the funniest things i've ever read. Great line.

Yes, you're correct. But the reason they don't give it back is b/c it's illegal. They are not allowed to take risk deposits so they have to treat it as a training fee. It is actually illegal to give back the money b/c that shows that it's actually a risk deposit. So basically they are forced...

Hippie, You're missing the point. The reason that these firms have "training fees" is b/c it's illegal to take risk capital from unlicensed traders and leverage them. Also, it is illegal for a non-broker dealer to make money off of a trader on commissions. That is why they enter the grey...

I just reviewed their website. The only problem I have with it is that they say that you have access to their capital upon completion of the course. However in a PM someone mentioned to me that if they go below the level of capital they contributed then they have to take another "training...

I would like to know what you guys teach and if there is a "teaching fee." I have also been trading for the past eight years and I would like to know what exactly your training program offers that is not offered anywhere else. I am not trying to come off as a jerk in saying this, I genuinely...

Hippy.... If you have any experiences either good or bad at a certain firm please PM me and let me know some details if you don't mind.

what's is that stuff?

AUTHOR DOING RESEARCH was misleading? I posted author doing research followed by questions I was interested in. I still don't see what the problem with that is. Just do yourself a favor and go back to cleaning people's toilets. You have 5000 posts of the same nonsense just hating on...

Once again.... The post I have is labeled AUTHOR LOOKING FOR PERSONAL STORIES.... I can see how that was confusing to you, i should have been more clear on what I was doing, maybe I should have given you the publishers contact info... would that have cleared it up you retard. What about any...

The fact that you need to verify your accomplishments on an anonymous website shows how full of it you are.

Once again.... The post I have is labeled AUTHOR LOOKING FOR PERSONAL STORIES.... I can see how that was confusing to you, i should have been more clear on what I was doing, maybe I should have given you the publishers contact info... would that have cleared it up you retard. What about any...

The guy is a joke, he says he's trading since 87 or some nonsense but he's on posts asking guys a way to trade cuz he doesn't have 5k to put up as a deposit. What a joke.

my personal favorite is him saying that i'm collecting research under false pretences. This is what he said under a post I put up called AUTHOR DOING RESEARCH.... LOL