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you are confusing the general with the specific: some - many - Jews do indeed believe in "one g-d". what all Jews do NOT believe is that belief in one g-d is necessary for anybody to live a moral life or to achieve righteousness. damir00 ________________________________________________ IMO...

Now, #1 I'm pretty solid on because I found those numbers in quite a number of *christian* places. turok _____________________________________________ The sources you quote are very good and they believe their numbers are correct but there are other figures out there and a lot of...

It seems to me that what is needed is a clearer and more precise definition of the terms being used at the beginning of the debate. Sometimes it seems we are saying the same thing but using different terms. Might save a lot of time and frustration.

As I have watched the latest in this debate(and really appreciate its civility and mutual respect) I would like to pose a question. You all are talking about the second death or destruction of the spirit are you not? If so then the nature of the fire would need to be able to destroy a...

But isn't that exactly the logical inference to draw from Doubter's post? If Jesus died to save us from all sins past, present and future except for the sin of rejecting him, doesn't this mean that, technically speaking, one could actually go and do whatever the hell he wants and as long as...

There is no reason why mankind should have suffered the atrocities of Hitler et al, if the mistake God made by introducing sin in the first place had been atoned by Christ's death according to these stories . So how come Hitler was able to sin in that way? Why should those poor wretched people...

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4. If Christ died for(in payment of ?) mans' sins, then why isn't the debt paid. The story goes that God created sin, God made sin unavoidable to mankind, God sent Christ (or God himself) to his death to pay for the sin which God created. Then that should be that. Why is there still sin...

3. If Christ was supposed to have died 2000 odd years ago, you make a truism by saying yours [sin?] would be in the future don't you think? So were you born with or without 'original sin'? stu ___________________________________________ First part, yes it is a truism. Second part, born...

2. Please claify. Is it that you are saying, God is supposed to have sacrificed his own life (if you follow the Trinity concept of things) or Christ's life (if you think Christ is the actual son of God), as atonement for the sin of man up to that point only ? If so, what was the purpose, was it...

1 Last time I raised this, you didn't want to debate it remember..pg 51 ? "...So you can now leave the rest of us to face the consequences of our decisions". Do I take it you have changed your mind ? If so..... stu __________________________________________________ I didn't want to debate...

Sin Christ Bible...you tell me what definition of sin Christ is supposed to have died for. I am told by your goodself that "1. Christ died for the sins of the world. Period, all of them, mine and yours and Hitlers'." stu ______________________________________________ All of them except...

I have a good friend who was in a jacuzzi on his travels. He was alone but a couple came in later and they resented his being there. In a haughty way they hinted that he should leave and let them be alone. Finally when he had had enough he got out but as he did he said "I better get out now...

As the story goes isn't it that God created sin, ensured people would sin, and knowing people must sin , he sends Christ to be killed for the sin God himself caused and created. So then God punishes Christ/himself/people, as atonement for all people, who God caused to be sinful in the first...

______________________________________________ For gosh sakes stu if there is pee in the water don't just stand there embarrassed, get out until we can ascertain the perp and drain the pool. I had to meet a contractor about 20 miles from where I was so had to be gone for some time. I had...

your butterfy stroke is causing a wake at this end. stu ______________________________________________ How so? Especially if the pool is dry and if it is dry then we should easily identify who peed. Much easier than if the pool were full.

______________________________________________ If I remember correctly Turok and I were in the pool or jacuzzi already. Trying to have a civil and mature discussion when along comes an interloper who accuses me of peeing in the pool because of a hopefully benign answer. Go figure?

___________________________________________ Right on! There is really nothing I can add. I am acquainted with several SDA people and know a little of their teachings so to me you would need to not reject all their teachings just because they are their teachings but be very careful that...

____________________________________________ One of the things I learned early in my Christian walk is that we will very likely become like what we most dislike in our parents. That is a somewhat frightening prospect. If my wife wants to stop some annoying habit of mine she always says...

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