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    LOL, more assertions that will require a litany of assertions to back it up.
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    Have faith. ;)
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    A direct answer from v on that question would be nice.
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    Volente, For the last time, I mean it too, where did anyone say that it is impossible for a higher power to exist? I never said it, in fact I said the exact opposite. It sure can be possible. Problem is, possible does not equal fact. But what you must understand about atheism is...
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    Goddamn - Sam, I got my work cut out for me.
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    What's funny about rcan is that he claims to be a Calvinist. Well, a Calvinist takes the position that if you are not chosen to believe you wont. But the Calvinist also takes the position that faith comes from God and is a product of God's predestined will. What's more, if all is by faith...
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    Why is it that many of the theist posters attempt to qualify themselves? For instance "I'm a business man and a scientist." Or, the mother of all grand standing, "I have 3 degrees. You know nothing." Or this one takes the cake, "we're wanted men. We have the death sentence on 12...
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    However, as I stated before, the ideas came from first observing the material world, not the other way around. EVERYTHING is first born of observation. Concept of Gods? In all probability came first from observing phenomena and nature but being unable to define it and its cause. It wasn't...
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    Exactly. That's why only the strongest of atheist assert that there is no god. The rest conclude that so far, all the asserted gods do not exist given the lack of evidence for their existence. And the newly asserted gods or higher powers so far lack evidence of their existence also other than...
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    Well, this bunch knows that they know very little but are learning more and more everyday. The theist thinks he knows it all already. That's the difference. Yes, this is true but don't add rational, just leave it at "human trait." Well, a person's purpose can really only be known in...
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    Could you point me to some historical documentation that there was a belief in the existence of an atom before discovery? Superstitious belief in "elements" do not count. Read about why and what was meant by elements. Hint: Aristolele's four element theory of Earth, water, air, fire was...
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    I know you're not a bible reading theist. That's why I'm suggesting you read at least something. It appears as if you are making up your "religion" as you go along. Not saying you can't. But at least take a gander at a more developed religion to understand what religion and theism is actually...
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    That's called divine intervention. Cornerstone of every religion. You really need to study, at least in brief, all the world's religions. In many ways you are arguing against them while trying to argue against atheists. I was kind of surprised that you didn't recognize the Gideon story...
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    I gotta hand it to you. You're really good at this thing you do. You've got the Guru thing down to a tee. You should seriously consider writing a book or two. There are so many people who would dig this stuff. Only, I wouldn't call yourself Jesus or I Am as that would probably alienate and...
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    But what are those expectations based on? Taking the example of the nuclear reactor, the expectation was not based on any belief, but rather something tangible and testable. Look up the history of how humans came to understand the atom all the way up to fusion. It was brick by brick. Observation...
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    True, but people eat up all the cryptic spiritual talk. He is quite good at it. And he'd probably make a fortune doing it.
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    It was so bizarre, I didn't want to touch it.
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    You obviously never read the bible or Qu'ran. It's a twist of the Gideon story and the "fleece test" that Gideon used to validate God's word. People pray for healing don't they? How realistic is that? What about praying for an amputated limb to grow back? They pray for all sorts of things...
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    I think you have it all backwards. I'm referring to the last part in particular. Scientists knew nuclear reactions existed. They just weren't sure that we could harness the energy. There is a difference between that and what you are positing. They OBSERVED nuclear reactions. They figured what...
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    As for testing for God, well, prayer was mentioned in the thread. To make it easy, we'll do it old school style. We'll pick a location that we monitor by video, infrared and night vision camera. In the monitored area, we'll draw several 12ft diameter circles. In the center of these...
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