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I actually agree with you on the one traverse you have that I don't but my question is this traverse necessary for the process of reaching the channel? To be honest from now on everything I see as a traverse I'm going to annotate it to make sure.

TikiTrader I had the annotations exactly how you did on my rough annotation draft. I think were the only two from what I sawwith a carryover traverse from the previous day to start off the day. Thus Pt 3 of that traverse became our fanned traverse pt 1 when the lateral that began at 12:55...

Ill take a stab at it. In the example you gave the trend began when pt 1 became established(black circle) in the blue up traverse. It continued up and saw an increased black BO of a pennant which confirmed a pt 3 of the blue traverse(annotated). But when the traverse was broken on decreased red...

Or in this example? Why didnt it end?

where did the old trend end in my example?

Consider my comment as an attempt to apply some logic to tape/traverse/channel differentiation. 1. A set of bars that can be annotated (i.e. LTL and RTL can be drawn) as a traverse has to meet minimum requirements: points 1,2 and 3 on at least three separate bars (chubby tape being an...

I do that I always compare over and over again once I do a rough annotation of what I think it is on my own. I compare to Spyders charts all the differences and try to figure out why its different. This is how I see it. The black circle is the BO of the pink lateral movement I have labeled...

Which bar constitutes a pt 3 confirmation of the red down traverse(second traverse of the day) and the pink down traverse. I have a lateral forming starting at the 11:15 bar. Is it the 11:40 bar that confirms the pt 3 of the pink down traverse?? The trouble I'm having is understanding why in...

I am glad you sorted this out. Others got there, and so shall we. It's just a matter of placing a proper focus on things that really matter and avoiding energy expenditure on trivialities that don't, such as who's got success with the system and who don't, and who defends it. This is...

Please specify what I feel I deserve more of? More than Im Due??Im not asking for dues. Sound like you think I want a cut of Spyders money or something. Im seeking knowledge which is what the forum was created to to offer. You make it seem like Im goin above and beyond this forum and yearning...

Quote from makosgu: "... This entire journal is FREE. No one is obliged to make demands of any sort. It's a two way street here. For those that understand, it is a reinforcer. For those who don't, it is something to contemplate and sort for themselves..." This is a very laid back...

Haven't ask to see any of those once(look it up)....Let me ask you this.... You ever heard of Paul from the Bible by any chance?? If you haven't.. read his story regardless of your religious background, the point will still matter. Unfortunately for this forum, there is and might not ever be...

Let me take a wild guess and say that at the time you took upon yourself to chime in on what bundlemaker had to say that was in the slightest bit directed towards spyder. Let me take another wild guess, without looking through posts(completely a shot in the dark here), there is not one...

I dont know the differnces to a "T" that bundlemaker had. I've read all the posts back and forth that led to his leaving the forum for good. You mistake me for someone who doesn't believe the system works. INCORRECT. Ive posted numerous times that I believe the system works. I'm not trying...

Last night at around 3:00a.m. there was a post deleted from some guy saying it was naive to believe jack and spyder without documents or something like that. The post was deleted. Now I don't really care that the post was deleted besides the fact that it was a post that in someones opinion...

The feeling I am getting is that everything has become discussion rather than definitive. I posted a question about an annotation two days ago and after hours staring at the situation and reposting that I was making little progress finding a distinction that would lead me to an answer, the...

Im following the advice that was given weeks ago and just annotating right now. I'm doing past charts and new charts everyday(absolutely no trading at all) then asking questions when there are discrepancies in annotations. With all due respect the problem I had with seeing the annotations...

Makes sense if you think about the fact that if the change is in the tape then it is not in the traverse.... and thus you can expect the traverse to end up being fanned out. Very hard to see thats the reason it is not an FTT of the traverse though.

So essentially the 11:25 bar that closed at 11:30 had increased volume with decreased volatility. This bar was the HH of the blue traverse but gave a tape signaled change(FTT) whatever you want to call it and we don't annotate on the tape level, therefore the annotation for an FTT is correctly...

So if may chime in here then the 7-22 11:30 ES bar in question neither had a pennant FBO because it never broke the flat top pennant which formed and then closed within the pennant(hence FBO). It didnt reach peak volume because the bar was decreasing red and it also did not have decreased...