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that sums it up some what, but which party is in power does matter.. regardless of who cares or doesn't.. seriously dude it just does. These are the people that create laws and they can (and have) done a lot of damage to the nation.

I think cobra is at like 18 months now.. plenty of time to switch to another job or find another plan, most people don't have preexisting conditions. It is more expensive because I believe it is NOT funded by the govt.. you are simply paying the entire premium + admin costs for cobra, instead of...

Catholicism is part of Christianity.. and no christian schools don't exist solely to censor what they don't believe. in fact, i was taught about evolution, and convinced that it was the most logical theory about our creation, at a catholic school lol. You are making things up.. at the schools I...

If your employer is paying all or some of your insurance, and you get laid off or whatever.. you are eligible for cobra. Essentially the employers share is now shifted to you, the ex-employee should you want it. So yeah they have real insurance.

Are you trying to make an argument that because most employee hc ins is not taxed, that individual plan holders who are taxed, are somehow subsidizing them? IF that is what you are alluding to, then the reason no one has brought it up is because it is false.. and stupid. Just because they...

FT where do u dig this stuff up? I attended private catholic school for at least 10 years of my life.. i don't recall ever reading or being taught ANY of the things you listed. I am also not religious at all. Find better sources dude, you simply believe and regurgitate anything that...

that's my bet, because of the new handle and fake conservative nonsense.

I agree with you that my post didn't really fit well in this thread. indythink is working my nerves though and i felt the need to correct him in his (intentionally) flawed statements that nothing is going to change for people who are already insured. I also agree with your argument, I don't...

he's not reading posts or can't seem to understand that taxes are being raised to fund this. Reality is the providers won't cover pre existing conditions or anyone who obviously can't afford the premium, so instead of forcing them to through law (which i would still disagree with), obamacare...

No thinking? Figure this then, most people who can afford and want insurance have it, they won't be paying the mandate/tax. Most people who don't have insurance can't afford it, they can't pay the tax. Other taxes are raised by the bill, now tell me, who is going to purchase the insurance for...

If you're referring to the roles within families, then sure that's a good assessment. As for a role in society, liberty has proven a more effective and stronger force than tyranny but for some reason we in the US are moving the opposite way.. willingly. Except it isn't the people bearing the...

I have BC/BS as well. Anyway, 36k is quite a fee.. your probably about my age so i doubt is was heart related. as an aside, what is going to happen to people who don't follow their initial doctors advice i wonder? this is going to be a disaster

Was it just gas? quit being a bitch and driving up costs for everyone.. dont forget now 'we're all in this together'.

I can't disagree more, I listed approaches that could have been taken. obamacare inherently weakens the economy and it opens the door to probably unimaginable possibilities for Congress. This is an abortion of freedom.. but it isn't new. have you ever wondered why (i'm sure most have) YOU...

You are exactly right, the only logical conclusion that can be reached is control. the dems could have passed whatever they wanted, the repubs attempted to push tort reform and interstate trade, but obummer wouldn't have it. http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/465.Alexis_de_Tocqueville

It is a fucking tax bro, there is no sane way to claim obamacare is not an added expense.

I disagree, if they work out overall through an increase in volume and/or incentives they could insure the uninsured for a profit, they would absolutely do it. That is the approach which someone that values the free market would take. Also, anyone interested in preserving individual freedom...

AK dude, they had the votes for obamacare, so how did they not have the damn votes for the public option. No repubs voted for obamacare, so what is the the difference between the 2? Either way this is bad, damaging policy (obamacare) to the ideal of liberty.

Ok and this is my gripe, we already have medicaid to support the poor. Instead of expanding medicaid, the dem congress and pres decided it was BETTER somehow to pass a mandate/tax forcing ALL OF US to buy insurance. Well for the people that don't pay taxes, we are going to have to buy them...