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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    It's kind of dumb to incurr WWII since that was so long ago and not very relevant to what is happening today, but even with your dubious assumptions you are most likely wrong. Since you don't bother to actually check the numbers before forming an opinion, I'm not going to either.
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    My idealogy is my own. I think for myslef and there isn't one single leader out there that I can say is a perfect match for myself. I refuse to be a repubican, and I dislike the democrats. Programs like medicare are created precisely because of idealogy, so therefore your belief system will...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    well bigarrow, you think piezoe is spot on even though he spouts ideas easily shown incorrect like the military budet is larger than entitlements. Your leaders are people like Reich who say things like "It's not the program, it's the costs". You yourself add no insight and your types are ruining...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    First of all it isn't hidden, it right there on my insurance statement I get for every time I see the doctor. Secondly providers do take losses on gov't paid patients and this is the reason for the silly billing. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/16/health/policy/16medicaid.html?pagewanted=all...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Yes, thank you. If gov't would butt out and liberals not insist that all the tit suckers get the latest and greatest, medical care would be much more affordable for all. Government policy produced by heart tugging anecdotes to eliminate all heart tugging anecdotes will only produce a far...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    I didn't say SS, I said medicare and medicaid, and no those have not run real cash surpluses over the last 30 years. Proponents use the phony trust fund accounting and ignore part B. Using real cash in and out the surpluses stopped sometime around 2000. It doesn't really matter though, where...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Thanks, I always thought I looked younger than my age too complicated for the thinker I see you always just 'touch' topics irrelevent to what I said You said " ...something should be done about the huge cost of end of life care where huge expense is incured for a futile attempt to...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Small fraction of people want suicide...but if you want to save money by not treating terminally ill in the final stages by offering them a quick and easy death -whatever that is, then you must agree that we should also not treat all prisoners, illegals, children of illegals, fetal alcohol...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    "one of the most popular programs" wtf thinker, there are only 3 major entitlement programs ... run a thought experiment- Let's say I declare a program that gov't will pay for your lunch, how popular do you think that might be? How about I simply offer that the gov't write everyone a $500K...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    The only tree I was barking at was Reich's tree of leftist academic bilgefruit. So out of control spending is not the problem for entitlement programs, got it, thanks for clearing that up. Liberals love people like you. Given the vigorous defense in here, I think the words bear some sort...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Old enough to understand that liberal ideals put into law never work as people like Reich say they will. Old enough to understand that the only pricing mechanism that has ever worked is a free market. Old enough to understand that government programs cannot cure human death and suffering and...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    free lunch philosopy, but guess who will end up paying anyway here's an idea, how about no gov't health care for cheeseburger eaters and let them bear the consequences of their own actions? It's called liberty and freedom, some guys about 240 years ago in Philly thought it was a swell idea.
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    You can't see the forest through the trees. You will still have to pay via taxes if you insist that everyone gets all they want, you will still have to pay. military - government health care for life it really can suck for some, just look into VA quality and availability as well as care for...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Then tell that to Reich who is the one suggesting negotiations. Actually real negotiations occur all the time on large DoD service contracts, and between private providers and insurerers. Think about it- medicare pays below market level for services, and you claim has low administrative...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Think about this- medicare has actually already set below market prices for their services (which is why you won't get the best doctors), so what would a negotiaion get? How the hell could one negotiate lower than what they have by simply setting it themselves? {At least insurance companies are...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    I said price controls, not fixing. However the point was what medicare engages in is NOT a negotiation and I notice you don't really address that. "take it or leave it" IS NOT negotiation On your second point I said the insurance company(s) negotiates, not the gov't since the price is based...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    the point is that you said 'pro insurance' types should read whatever, why? it has nothing to do with my point Admin costs as a percentage of total cost is misleading anyway mathematically. It simply means medicare probably shovels out more money per patient.
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Merriam-Webster defines "negotiate" as "to confer with another so as to arrive at the settlement of some matter." Medicare does not confer with medical providers about prices. If providers don't accept these prices, then they will not be reimbursed for treating Medicare patients, that is NOT a...
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    Medicare isn't insurance, when u geniuses gonna figure that out?
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    The 8 biggest economic lies

    oh I read it allright, and until you sir understand the massive distortions on the marketplace that entitlements and regulations have on any service you will never understand why aspirin costs a dollar. For profit car insurance works just fine and it's because the government isn't mandating...
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