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the models were off by massive amounts that is what we know. we don't know how useful the lockdown was considering we are now being told 25 percent of NYC has antibodies...

And the proper testing is what Cuomo is doing. Testing for Antibodies... 1. knowing the real dominator finally allows us to explain to the crazies that we have to re open.. This virus is not what they claimed. 2. We can hope that many of the infected have immunity...Right now it looks like...

no one is saying - non immune healthy individuals - in the low risk group won't get infected and won't spread it...That is not the goal. The goal is to get them back to work... because if they do get infected they are likely to have less serious infections. you keep the high risk group...

interesting you called me out... you soros loving, central bank loving... you may wish to read this... I am not saying you are wrong because maybe I did not fully understand what you were saying... but it seems Germany is going to rely on apps and testing the sick and care givers...

How many times are you going to wrong on this. its the number of cases one individual will spread in a population where all members are susceptible. The low risk group is is comprised of healthy people and people who are already recovered. People who may already have immunity. A group with...

you leftist moron... its not about the messenger its about the UK deciding the data from China is not credible. Was that an accurate report or not?

1. basing your decision to lock down on bad data from China may be the most destructive decision made by govrenments since the great leap forward. only this time it was western govt destroying their peoples lives by relying on bad data from China...

you present the the most negative view possible... and its probably not even close to what will turn out be reality. half their deaths have been in locked down old folks homes... When you take those deaths out... if it turns out there is herd immunity They will be way ahead of the game. If it...

you douche bag... I gave you a link to that information last week. of course I know that. I used "effective R0" for those... not familiar with the actual nomenclature and no one is using effective R... in any source I have read.

interesting that govts are starting to loosen the shut down as the truth about empty hospitals and the damage being done but the shutdown... seeps out passed the media quarantine on the truth about the shutdown.

finally the truth about the effective R0 is coming out. This was obvious to anyone with a brain looking at the stats rather than the headlines. Lockdown should have been customized for each area and low risk vs high risk groups should have been considered. .

and how many would die if its lifted in September vs how many will die and what damage will be done... keeping it shutdown. If the article is not also discussing the damage being done and the risk of second wave damage... its propaganda.

You don't have a link showing the the Stanford study / paper being withdrawn after saying it was withdrawn? But you said... in pertinent part... "I will note that both the Stanford and other anitbody study in CA have been withdrawn ... "

so if Germany's leading expert says that testing everyone has not been done and it might not be needed... would GWB stop making shit up about testing and tracing? Q: Should all countries be testing everybody? A: I’m not sure. Even in Germany, with our huge testing capacity, and most of it...

I would like to read about the papers being withdrawn... can you provide a link to the information about the Stanford antibody test being withdrawn.

sorry... I am looking at charts for tomorrow and I did not let the last part sink in.

I read the short WHO paper earlier today. The WHO did not say that at all. Doomers have misrepresented what the WHO wrote. They wrote they were concerned immunity passports might not be accurate because there have been no studies saying that those with antibodies have immunity. My take is...

excellent point. just based on how many people had it without knowing it in NY per the antibody tests... i think we can say that there must be a good deal of resistance to reinfection at least in the shorturn NY and surrounding areas would be overwhelmed by now.

yet almost all your posts are science free... and frequently fact wrong. Your posts almost always feature the logical fallacy -- an appeal to authority. Saying the experts say... is the weakest argument there is. to be useful you must show the science or the data and then appeal to an...

you are so densely left its not even funny. you brought up Taiwan and it supported my arguments.... that would be funny but it shows how full of shit your are with your Myth of the great lefty govt. Testing and tracing is not the reason for their success. its because they kept the virus out...