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So you're not certain there is a God. ok.

Not true. Belief is not required in any of that. Belief is not the prerequisite to scientific discovery. You're misusing the word. You think or you understand something goes this or that way in science, is not the same, nor is it required that in science , you must believe something goes...

What, you mean like you are supposed to have made it all the way through law school in the states by using the word site for cite, which you only learned not to do on this board. You've plenty of credibility when it comes down to faulty notions Difference is , I got through grade school...

There certainly were enough people sprouting civilization up and down the eastern seaboard well before Mayflower. A substantial contingency of British had been present for years. Even the French and Russians had shown themselves. There's a long list of British colonies in North America...

However, the first did exist, before Mayflower and there’s no doubt the process of colonization had begun anyway. Colonies and settlements were being formed and abandoned and reformed earlier than the Puritans' less than proficient arrival. Roanoke Colony, Virginia Company, Jamestown...

Evolution Like Gravity.........it's a fact

Your argument with me then is not that Wallet is wrong which by that you're suggesting he is, but the difference between.... 13 colonies were founded beginning 1607. and 13 colonies already being established by 1607. So were I to correct my statements as follows , would they also be...

I don't think you two have one brain cell between you. Well I know jem doesn't own anything that resembles one. Even when the dates and detail is in your face on your own link you'll deny what it says... "Based on George Weymouth's accounts of voyages to the New England area in 1606...

No, creationists like yourself have done that, evolution is nothing to do with causation for life. It never was

To answer that, let me ask you something. Flat Earth is neither a scientific fact or a theory right? Gravity is a scientific fact and a theory right? Evolution is a scientific fact and a theory right? So how come you are not asking OptionalZZzzz who says Gravity and Evolution are not a...

Well I'm sorry too Wallet, but those 13 colonies were established in 1607 largely by European settlers. Not subsequently by the Mayflower Puritans. I know many Christians would like re-write history as if it was Christianity that made it , but that just doesn't work.

Don't be ridiculous. A little historical accuracy wouldn't go amiss yourself. America was already Colonized into the original 13 states years before the rag tag motley crew of half dead Puritans that had managed to survive their fecked up journey in the Mayflower along with their...

Personal conjecture about mindless chance and Bible creation have no effect on evolution being a fact as gravity is a fact. Other possibilities out there include the absurd, which you, as a creationist, do not reject as key positions although they are terribly flawed. Possibilities...

So to try and pretend evolution is not a fact in evidence, your argument now is... gravity isn't a fact. What's the next desparate claim from creationism?...will it be the word fact is in fact not a word??

The evolution of biological organisms from changes in their genetic material, is fact in evidence. No matter how much you insist it isn’t won’t change the Evolution fact Evolution is a fact Gravity is a fact. God isn't. That simple.

Some good points but, they used to say the same about understanding lightning

I am saying the theory of evolution is not a fact but rather a guess of the human mind... Then you are simply wrong. Evolution is a fact. The process of evolution is observed and predicted as any fact is. Including gravity. How the process itself actually works, the mechanics down to the...

So you're saying Gravity is not a fact ?

So now you're saying the theory of evolution IS a process. No longer random chance then? Or are you going to plumb for a random chance process ? lol. What does British teeth have to do with anything. Are you British?

That's the thing about denial, it comforts even when being pushed by those you call a commie