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I'll wait, as I anticipate it'll be more intelligent than OptionTroll's foot shooting effort :)

I don't know why you want to make assumptions about what you think I believe, and I certainly don't think it sensible for you to suggest that religion as it is instilled into the mind of nations and one madman called Hitler, can only be really thought of existentially!! This thread is...

You mean, do I think the holocaust would not have happened if Christian Germany and Hitler's Christian faith in general hadn't been forged as Christian faith is, on Luther's Christian protestant reformation riddled with that German priest's violent rabid anti-Semitism and the centuries of...

You think it somehow better to be able to justify those actions by divine authority as a theist, than to have no such warrant as an atheist? A society without religion is like a crazed psychopath without a .45.

Certainly Christianity is responsible for the holocaust as much as Germany , its' culture at at that time is, as is still , the annulment of conscience by dominating Christianity and the Christian ethos of handing off ultimate responsibility for all wickedness to an immovable dictator...

Unlikely but perhaps if I'm the half you don't have on ignore then... well yes, that's what I was suggesting but phenomena , for some reason or other , got very pissy about me saying it wasn't just about the culture. Although I must say his latest response does now sound more reasonable to...

If I did use ad hominem then you'll have to point out where. So far it's not there, but if I did by your definitions then by the same token you, you must used ad hominem too. Why are you so touchy about this? If “we “ do see this sentiment as you say , which is supposedly made by an...

Yes , it is, or you wouldn't have produced such a pathetic reply. Specific references to things about a culture and God or Christian or Christians or Moslims or Islam , are about the culture and about religion. Get over it.

You didn't understand what was being said or you wouldn't have made such a pathetic response.

It's about culture and religion.

Hitler was a Christian. Christianity, Catholisicm certainly, is occult if nothing else. It's riddled with mythology and mysticysm and claims of extraordinary powers. No wonder people like Hitler would be inspired and connected to such ideas, believe in them, and use them to assume...

The false association you made was between atheists - and the non requirement to act in any particular moral direction. A moral adherent does not necessitate theists, christianity, islam, religion or a deity of any kind. When anyone is actually following what is being widely understood to...

Say it were so that atheism does not require the adherent to act in any particular moral direction, which of course is a false association of ideas, the atheist would have no such moral authority to rely on to justify acts of genocide, whereas the theist does, as Hitler obviously discovered.

Genocide in and under forms of Marxism, an economic and socio-political worldview or belief if you want, is not genocide based specifically on anti-religion or religion, and therefore does not contain the avowed insuperable belief of a higher moral authority or justification other than itself...

Yes I think I get your meaning, but stabbing about with pseudo-philosophical gobbledygook is hardly adequate for dismissing the fact that Hitler held strong Christian beliefs and applied them in justification of his deeds.

Where is your education indeed, or are you trying to re-write history? Hitler was a Catholic and Hitler's words demonstrate his strong Christian faith, manifesting the danger of religion when considered as ultimately true, and will always be a constant thorn in the side of Christian and...

Two years ago, United We Stand; Two years later, it's Blame, Blame, Blame and vilify the President because a psychopath shoots people. You imagine making political points on the back of a tragedy is in any way valid or edifying?

... what is this? From peilthetraveler, the self-righteous "creature" who expressed as reasonable by means of perverted religious belief, that it is acceptable for tens of thousands of children to die rather than get medical assistance because they may have grown up to become rapists and...

You might look at 1 Corinthians 13:11 then put your Bible away with Mother Goose and Alice in Wonderland, and grow up, you know, like one really should in regard to fairy tales.

This God thing is supposed to be righteous loving and peaceful, whilst putatively going around killing and destroying millions of Its so called creations. The superstitious religion you are giving vent to recommends spending an eternity with Kim Jong-Il.