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    National ID a prelude to a police state

    I have several IDs now. Sometimes I have to show them in order to go somewhere or have access to some privledge. There are many public records on me. What's the problem?
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    Arizona Sheriff: Won’t Enforce Immigration Law

    The border with Korea is a war zone, it's different. I think the troops could do it but there needs to be a physical barrier as well. Enforcing the law means going and finding the criminals, it's what cops are supposed to do. You can be pulled over at any time if your happen to match the...
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    National ID a prelude to a police state

    Do you understand that gov't agencies already have a ton of info on you? You already have several IDs, what's the big deal?
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    Great Libertarian Fiction

    The problem with any idealogy is just what its name implies, it's ideal, not real. I am libertarian bent, but the idealogues treat liberty as an absolute. Absolutes are meaningless in nature, even more so among human invented social-political laws. Fiction is about the only place where...
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    Obama and the budget

    Obama has been hampered in spending, damn that just struck as me funny. He's been hampered folks, can't you tell?
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    Obama and the budget

    I already knew that, it's your thought process that self justifies your closed minded behaviour that interests me. It's religion like. Obama could ram the deficit to $4T and he would have your vote.
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    Obama and the budget

    Did you know that obama is proposing to renew many of the Bush tax cuts? To be fair Hello, there is a $300B drop in revenues, but you are correct there is still a $700B increase in the deficit over bush that is not paid for. This discussion with ..... is interesting itself. I do not...
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    Obama and the budget

    Krugman suggested much higher deficits, I guess he would qualify. If government actually knew how to stimulate and run an economy, there should never be recessions. Economic policy would simple. For that matter, marxism would have been successful.
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    Obama and the budget

    Notice the word stimulus isn't being used this year even though it's still there. Someone thought that one out. It's all too clear, they got together and saw an opening into which they ram more of their socialism. Now they pretend they can't do a damn thing about it a year later...
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    Obama and the budget

    and Obama supported TARP on the senate floor!! he even tried to illegally use some oif the unspent money for other purposes. TARP is the one thing here that has even a hint of usefulness, and ........ is trying to disown it from Obama.
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    Obama and the budget

    listen dumb ass, the two wars were on the books in the 2008 numbers, and the deficit was $455B. The final numbers I put for 2008 and 2010 include the wars you moron, it was the PROJECTIONS that kept supplementals off the books you absolute dumb ass Obama enacted a $700B stimulus, all...
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    Obama and the budget

    Which brings up another point about war supplementals and the dishonesty of democrats. Sure Bush didn't add it to baseline because he was planning a pullout and drawdown in costs. Supplementals have been the way of doing business for a long time. Here's where the Obama statement get's really...
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    Obama and the budget

    you really need to stop embarrassing yourself, you really do lack brainpower, i mean that honestly since you cannot grasp the content of what i am writing here... I used 2010 for the very reason that I stated - I'm giving him sort of a pass on 2009 for one-time stimulus, but why the stimulus in...
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    Obama and the budget

    folks, this guy ........ is just dumb. I was not talking about projections, I am talking about real dollars in todays budget. In the end the 'gimmick' was reflected in the actual FY budget. The fact remains whether or not you include supplementals: This years budget almost triples the FY...
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    Obama and the budget

    You really are a jackass. You can't read, you keep saying things that I refuted, you keep saying inaccurate statements, you can't add.... I understand that is your truth, and that's the problem, you lefties are so dense when it comes to looking at your own policies that trying to discuss this...
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    Obama and the budget

    Although you beautifully illustrate the itelectuall of void of liberals, since I already addressed this, I still would like you to not post in this thread anymore. really dude, if you can't read for understanding at anything beyond the 2nd grade level then just go away. I addressed that as...
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    Obama and the budget

    Still does not excuse an extra $700B on top of everything else. Bad argument anyway, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt#Interest_expense There is interest actually paid out yearly on the public portion, and there is interest on the intergovernmental debt, which is...
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    Obama and the budget

    That link is spot on, it perfectly illustrates the stupidity of people, and the cynicism if Obama. Obama jacks entitlements sky high, then tries to portray himself a fiscal conservative by touting some trivial cut. Thought experiment- if I were president and I slipped in a manned mission...
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    Obama and the budget

    The massive social welfare increases not only compound an existing problem, they were sneeked in under the guise of stimulus. Very very deceptive, and paying the nursing home bill has an ROI <1, so it actually degrades long term growth, not stimulates -especially when it is borrowed. I wish...
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    Redneck Texas Religious Nutball Fool...

    I just thank my lucky stars they are not muslim.
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