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F is down 34.87% ytd GM is down 34.74% ytd TSLA is down 25.52% ytd Mirror, mirror..

This is a broad market crash and Tesla isn't immune, although it's holding up better than others in auto, tech or FAANG. TSLA at 500 would mean a very ugly market.

Time to buy!:D

This isn't about truth but possibility and likelihood. I'm not trying to be combative, only pushing the reasoning of those who support BTC for its libertarian/anarchist extra governmental capability. I think I was clear enough about how BTC can evolve within democratic oversight. At the end...

Is that like, guns don't kill people, people kill people? Stating that BTC is only software is either naïve or deliberately avoiding reality. What you also avoid is addressing my point if BTC is allowed to operate outside government oversight: The problem is your anarchist or libertarian...

You still fail to answer my 2nd point I see. Perhaps you have no answer for that yet it is key to why BTC needs government oversight. Yes, Putin and Xi were both elected (if we can call the Chinese dictator's politburo choice a democratic election... a stretch). But both made a mockery of the...

You keep throwing nonsense on a regular basis and answering you is almost a waste of time. Trudeau was elected and will run again, something that Hitler never did. That doesn't even address the shameful respect you seem to give the nazi fk.

Suggesting that Macron or Trudeau are of the same political inclination as Hitler or Pol Pot says more about your distorted understanding of politics than theirs. The latter 2 were elected then dispensed with the election process btw. Canada hellish place? Why? If you're Canadian, can you...

Some people believe in democracy. You know, every so often you vote for elected representatives accountable to you, through your vote. You may not always get the person you want, but that's the jist of the electoral process. For some, BTC promises to be that idealist place, a little bubble...

I just happened to be in Russia controlled Crimea when I logged in to my account... not realizing that Russia has sanctions deep in its ass that may affect you too? That's what sanctions are for ffs. As for the other article, yeah, I get it, governments create rules that we don't all like...

You misread me. The US has already decided to let BTC go on precisely because they've figured out how to retain oversight of transactions, likely from both technical and legal means. What I'm saying is those who, for political or financial reasons, want and expect BTC to evolve outside...

That's precisely the point I made earlier that will not happen. US Libertarians and anarchists scream bloody murder at the government run financial system and present BTC as the alternative. It's simply not understanding that powerful governments use their financial leverage, like on Russia...

Interesting discussion, and thank you for keeping it simple. Unlike Taleb. I think Overnight and Good1 are talking past each other, because one wants to equate BTC to a currency to justify its uselessness, while the other equates BTC to a store of value, like a virtual safe deposit box or gold...

You're giving pratical reasons to adopt or reject Bitcoin. While I'm invested in BTC and other cryptos for the quick and high returns that failed to be, if I spend anytime thinking about it, the truth is I don't believe in it, particularly after learning more about its intent for some of the...

Woulda, coulda, shoulda... the article doesn't evidence more than common sense. What is more worrisome is China only obsession with zero covid policy when the rest of the world has walked away from it. If the pandemic highlights such lack of rational, what will happen when Taiwan eventually...

Debate, even vigorous ones, don't need to drop to insults but, unfortunately, some of the forums can't argue without doing so. I stop responding whenever that point is reached.

No, I see a dictatorship looking for ways to siphon off capital without being flagged by the IMF and other financial institutions that are keeping track of the country's economic activities.

Although I'm heavily invested in Tsla, I don't hold back against Musk when I think criticism is due. He is an ego driven guy whose need for attention leads him to make questionable decisions, like building a factory in the middle of Germany's auto manufacturing mecca, where union labor and...

Exactly. The deal is done between selling and buying parties but the special interests still have their say before it closes.

That's quite a spread.. plenty of room to trade.