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IMO, the only way to make some sense of today is to treat 1205 as 'real' P2 on 5 min ES level fractal.

Another logical way of looking at it is this - if we don't have a completed sequence for a channel, then we don't have a channel, period. And what appears to be a channel p3 isn't really a p3 because the channel sequence is not finished yet. I am still a bit foggy at recognizing higher fractal...

sorry, 12/02

I have obtained the proof that is sufficient for me by studying the charts. The measure of sufficiency may be different for you, which is OK by me.

In other words, this whole thing appears to me to be a case of channel RTL breach prior to sequence completion simply requires a slight 'fan' of the trend channel in order to accomodate the changing slope of the money velocity.

I once asked Spydertrader if his red point three down here: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1986501 was suppose to have incr volume. He told me to set aside what I think I know , which I am still trying to do.:D It's not the answer that I like, but it's the only one I...

1540 yesterday made a VE which is usually followed by accel traverse - one can consider the situation yesterday eob as sequence not being completed. Today we get a new p3 of the channel and what took us there looked to me like 5 min es level traverse if you ignore the gap. Then the first...

IMO, the faster fractal (2nd orange) sequence completion completed the slower fractal (pink) as well. P.S. I don't share other poster's view of this area (1530 being p3 up) because I am trying to set aside what I think I know

LOL, I guess there's a limit on how many traverses can be accelerated in one day. Btw, If anybody came across the day where both traverses in opposite directions have accelerated traverses inside them...:D

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You're nothing but one month old alias of the same tired ... that you were before you changed your screen name. FYI, sufficient data exists to indicate that @1350 the sequence which started at 1310 was not completed and the time has not come to seek signal for change on the same fractal as...

I looked at both of your pics - your gaussians and trendlines don't seem to follow any convention that would make sense to me. I am not saying that they are wrong - just that I am unable to discern any useful data from them which would indicate that the sequence was not completed at 1350 ( the...

Your point is valid and normally would be sufficient to determine that @1350 we haven't finished moving p2 to p3. However, there may be another way of knowing. My gut is telling me that it's a real possibility.

While I am unable to find the clues in tapes and gaussians alone (leaving out the p2 to p3 lateral, which is another vocabulary word:D) as to why the sequence was not completed at 1350, the item which may require differentiation could be the location of green and blue point 3 in relationship to...

You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. People are getting 'it' and for those who are getting 'it' your creative writing is irrelevant. You're not the first to take a crack at Jack Hershey, and probably not the last. But your destiny is to fade away, just like others did...

As much as I'd like to, I can't explain the hiccup @ 1350 without a lateral beginning @ 1320.

LOL, I met them both in person, and they are not complaining.:D

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On the same fractal. However, 'illegitimate' P2's exist as well, but on a faster fractal.

To me they seem to be pointing to where the change will result in a new sequence in an opposite direction on the same fractal, e.g. change at 1125 is different from the change at 1205.