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You keep trying to pigeon hole me. Where do you place yourself? Are in favor of gov't intervention in the bedrooms and phone/internet lines? I'm not. Do you believe people should have the right to choose their religious beliefs? I do. Would you vote for a national flat tax? I would. Are you...

Well, I guess that makes two of us. So hard for the board to believe that people can actually think for themselves regarding politics. c

Weird argument, and same can be said for both sides if you are totally honest. Just switch the names. All the extremist terms like fascist are, well, extreme. But since you're willing to admit that both sides are responsible, I guess you must be a liberal as well. As far as Mr. 377 goes. I...

How would you gather that I'm anything else from my last statement? I have posted that I'm trying to get past the democrats insistence on blaming Bush for everything. Perhaps I didn't convey that well enough, sorry. Just pointing out that so much of the gov't intrusion in the last few years...

Etch a Sketch, watching that on TV now, pretty funny. c

' Mr. Sagan again: You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe. [Dr. Arroway in Carl Sagan's Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985] Why bother to try? Nothing can be gained by trying to change someone's...

Obama is the 'bankster' sellout? Didn't Bush start that. I know I said I'm trying to get past the 'blame Bush' scenario, but he's the one with the bailout. Also the 'Patriot Act' - what a name for big brother intrusion. c

OK, sure Mr. Mitt. How in heck did he get that stretch of anything remotely accurate? I'm past Bush, and think we should all get over it. I didn't dislike the man or the office, just his wars primarily. But I think even Mr. Bush would chuckle at this one. c

I would have thought 'lack thereof.' A belief system, perhaps, but not really a religion as there is no Deity involved. Just nit picking I guess, but please extrapolate. c

Valid to say that we cannot get past race, until we actually get past race. Sound silly? Well, of course it does. Chicken and egg type of thing. Color blindness would be nice, in a sense. When Nixon debated Kennedy, those who listened on radio thought Nixon won the debate, those who...

I've helped and participated in some of this. What do you find interesting or different from what you may have thought originally? Just curious. c

You're asking for Obama to right the wrongs of Bush and crew. Pretty hard when the House said from day one they're only mission is to defeat Obama. I do agree with you in that I wish Obama would push a bit harder to repeal some of the R's fascist policies, as you say. Just saying it's not that...

Did being forgiven stop the stoning? If the Ayatollah were to forgive the woman for not wearing her proper attire, would that help her from being persecuted? Forgiveness is great, for those doing the forgiving, giving them a false sense of either divinity or self adulation. Not so good...

We are all forced to pay taxes for things we don't want our taxes paying for. Like wars, too many secret service men on vacations, all sorts of things. That particular argument doesn't hold. c

So slow we're resorting to the jokes thread, I like it. Cain and Able (sp, Abel, of course), perfect for this forum. c

I understand, but even that can be a concern. Not nice to pick on those with little education, formal or otherwise. We were asked to stay off the Anti-Israel thread, just as I was called out as being somehow not what I claim to be. No big deal, except it was funny that they were happily...

First bazaar not bizarre. Now atheist's not atheists. Plural vs. possessive, oh well. You keep making me smile, but you know they'll never understand with that home schooling and all. To be fair, we all make mistakes when trying to think and type. Well, at least some of us think and type -...

Excellent point +1. Too bad that so many parents are brainwashed or lack the capacity to help as much as they should. c

Many who choose not to join a formal religion have solid moral compasses. I think many Church groups do good things, I also think many Church groups have outlived their usefulness. Education has replaced the need for much of what organized religion has offered over the centuries. The old...

Now this one actually has me laughing out loud. Maybe, just maybe, the stars are, well, stars? Maybe they line up better visually to some when pointing up, down sideways or whatever. This has nothing to do with GOP=Satan, or GOP= Evil, or anything else. If the GOP is evil, it has nothing to do...