What happened to that autosurf discussion?

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Why was the entire Ponzi thread deleted?
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There was an abundance of spam coming from one of the posters, and all of the discussion was related to how this system (the one that was being spammed) worked.
 
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There was an abundance of spam coming from one of the posters, and all of the discussion was related to how this system (the one that was being spammed) worked.
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Spammin' Sammy? Say it ain't so???!!!!

Sam, ES, et al, any way we can start up a similar thread - minus the spam?

It was very interesting learning about that stuff and 'Savant's trials/tribulations. Sure, it's all a ponzi scam, but it was one of the more interesting ET threads... :(
 
Baron,

your not mad at me are you...?

It was in Chat and I was not recruiting anyone for my benefit, other than getting credit if they joined my Downline...I only got two people..we are all in a more appropriate forum, but I think I got a few new members over to ET...

I didn't realize I was doing anything that bad...please do not be pissed at me...I really enjoy ET, but I am always in trouble here...


I really can't understand savage and why he got so upset?

It was interesting as many concepts were related to Trading, and it was fascinating to see the correlation...

I thought we could talk about anything in Chat...Just read some of the terrible political discussions going on...surely I did not violate the rules that much?

Look I am not challenging you...I would lose as all you would have to do is ban me for good...This has been a favorite place of mine for years and I really mean no harm...

Since that thread my Retail Spot Forex Trading has improved in Cash & Carry (Grid) which has a discretionary componet to it..

Michael B.
 
Just read a blurb about StormPay freezing all assets for 12DailyPro, an investigation by the FBI and a forthcoming determination if these autosurf programs are in fact ponzi schemes. Don't know what if any of the above is true, just passing it along as I found it. The last paragraph is the most interesting.

http://bigdaddyhyip.com/

Latest e-mail from Stormpay about this situation:

Dear StormPay Member,

Please read this news update as it contains important information concerning your StormPay account as well as spends from your account to the "Auto-Surf" industry.

Traditionally "auto-surf" is a "traffic exchange" industry as to where persons gain traffic credits for promoting their URL (website address) in exchange for viewing websites offered by others. Any monies taken in on these types of "traffic exchanges" are normally for upgrades to have your URL (website) shown at a higher rate of exposure. For an example of how a true auto-surf works, you can visit www.autohits.dk or other sites comparable.

"Paid to click", or "Paid to Read" types of sites are normally where an advertiser pays to have his/her ad displayed and the end user gets paid a portion of the advertiser dollars for clicking on and reading/viewing the ad. The end user who is being paid for reading/viewing the advertisement does not spend any monies to participate. An example of this type of service is StormPay's own "StormClix" where participants are not charged to view advertisements and are rewarded an account credit for viewing the advertisement.

It has recently been brought to the attention of StormPay Inc. that the current rash of new Auto-Surf and Paid to Read accounts are NOT operating in the traditional manner. Further investigation by both StormPay and other outside investigational organizations/law enforcement agencies have have drawn early conclusions that these types of programs are nothing more than well hidden "Ponzi" or "Pyramid" schemes. While many of you may not agree, or wish to agree that these programs or illegally operated ponzi's, there are many facts that that are unavailable to you, or that may have been hidden by the operators of these programs. Please note that StormPay's user agreement has always banned merchant accounts for these types of activities.

Throughout the investigations into these programs, StormPay has asked the "Merchant(s)" to provide a detailed explanation of the workings of these programs including how profit margins and customer payments are made. These questions were asked point blank by StormPay while on a conference call with the owner/operator and their attorney. The requests for information from the "merchant" were simply denied leaving StormPay no choice other than to report those findings to the other organizations who required the information from StormPay. These findings and reports caused the seizure of funds of the merchant(s) StormPay accounts until all legal matters are resolved. Please be reminded that this could have been avoided if the merchant(s) could have, or would have provided information proving no illegal pyramid or ponzi activity.

Furthermore, investigations and calculations show that these merchants were already at an "upside down" point where they are/were not able to meet the financial obligations made to their program participants. These merchants who were already failing to make good on their claims seem to now be using StormPay as their "Scape Goat" for the failure of their own pyramid or ponzi scheme. These programs are always doomed to failure and for that very reason, deemed illegal. Please site the following from StormPay's user agreement:

"17. Get Rich Quick" Schemes: Get Rich Quick Schemes are prohibited resell items by StormPay. Get Rich Quick schemes include any type of self-employment, start-up businesses, or investment opportunity where the claims of profit or returns on investment are unrealistic or unsupported. By law, if a business opportunity costs $500.00 USD or more, the promoter is required to support any claims regarding earnings or profits with written documentation.

Pyramids don't pay. StormPay Inc. and the Federal Trade Commission caution consumers about clubs or programs that promise quick money for recruiting new members. Don't bank on the pyramid promise that someone else will pay you. For more information on get-rich-quick schemes, visit the FTC at www.ftc.gov."

We know that the most prominent question in your mind is "What happens to the money I sent these programs?" Answer: At the moment any funds frozens in these merchant's accounts are frozen and not payable until all investigations are completed. At such time investigations are completed, any remaining funds will be released to the merchant's, or refunded to the purchasers, based on the outcome of the investigations. Please be aware if determination is made that these are ponzi schemes, a great deal of the funds received by these merchant's will have been used to pay obligations to those who joined earlier into the programs. In other words, they will have used your money to pay other members thus creating a deficit of funds needed to refund all users. Please be patient while investigators decide the best procedures for handling this serious situation. Contacting your credit issuers or banks requesting chargebacks only compounds the problems for all involved, including the merch! ants and their customers, and delays returns of any funds. These actions could also be punishable by law.


StormPay will keep you updated of developments as information is available and allowed to be released.

StormPay Inc.
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incredible...what a surprise!
I am astonished! how did that happened??
oh, uh..how could have I forseen something like this?...I am lost for words
 
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incredible...what a surprise!
I am astonished! how did that happened??
oh, uh..how could have I forseen something like this?...I am lost for words
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I'm stunned!

Round up the usual suspects!!!

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And you guys even had to wonder why we shut that stuff down. Your friendly Mods have been around the block more than once, but we keep our citizens in mind.
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Just read a blurb about StormPay freezing all assets for 12DailyPro, an investigation by the FBI and a forthcoming determination if these autosurf programs are in fact ponzi schemes. Don't know what if any of the above is true, just passing it along as I found it. The last paragraph is the most interesting.

http://bigdaddyhyip.com/

Latest e-mail from Stormpay about this situation:
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And you guys even had to wonder why we shut that stuff down. Your friendly Mods have been around the block more than once, but we keep our citizens in mind.
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We get citizenship?:D Been around the block, or running inteference.........
I liked the enthusiasm of the deleted thread.
Trouble is, most things that are that enthusiastic are stock pimpin, (actually not too much of that here which is good-then again i dont trade stocks), fx shop pimpin (dont trade fx right now) BTW phildunn is the marketiva spammer from hell,
and looking around........where's the enthusiasm?

Try and be enthusiastic about something, and get shot down in flames. Oh well.
Curb your enthusiasm, huh?

:)
 
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