Volume on USM09 vs. USU09

Quote from LVMises:

Are u trading cattle futures?

Not too exciting? Where u sleeping on Friday during NFP?
Dude, I am referring to the roll not being too exciting (relatively speaking)... Sorry for not being too clear.

No, no cattle or lean hogs for me. I take delivery whenever I have a basis position and don't wanna do the roll.
 
Quote from Martinghoul:

Dude, I am referring to the roll not being too exciting (relatively speaking)... Sorry for not being too clear.

No, no cattle or lean hogs for me. I take delivery whenever I have a basis position and don't wanna do the roll.

it's Herr Dude, thanks:D

u must trade (invest) in a fairly niche market considering only 3% of u.s. treasury futures contracts are delivered into.
 
Herr LVM, I am referring to delivery of cash bonds, specifically. I don't play in any physical commodity mkts.

Delivery doesn't happen too often, to be fair, but it does happen and I have never had issues with it (actually, happened once, when an idiot colleague forgot that he was short into contract expiry; wasn't pretty).
 
Quote from Mike805:

Hi All,

Recently (about 1 month ago), I started tracking the 30 yr. The volume dropped off on the M09 contract recently and the volume seems to have moved over to the U09 contract... when does this normally happen? The ESM09 volume is still strong while the ESU09 is not very liquid yet. Why does the current month ES have strong volume and not the currrent month US?

Thanks,
Mike

Institutional investors are rolling their positions. This normally happens 2-3 weeks before expiry. There is no exact timing. It's best to roll as the market rolls, Type TYU9 CMDTY GP <GO> and you can see that it conveniently shows roll volume vs time. We have a specific time we might want to roll, but if the market isn't rolling at that point we will wait 1 or 2 days. Brokers are transparent about this when you call them up. For example, "Joe, I want to roll TY contract today, what is market support" "Market can handle 15K right now" So instead of rolling 50K position, you roll <15K. Hope this makes sense.
 
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