US sanctions hit Europe very hard

[Statistical Trader]

Well, they are just going to have to figure out a way to get energy.

Oh yes, I agree with that. Of course they'll need to solve that problem.

I was responding to this part:

You make it sound as if European countries didn't want to sanction Russia and aren't aligned with the US. What about the EU sanctions?

Well, maybe the population is aligned with the political leaders of their countries as poorly as American citiizens are aligned with our political leaders.
(Which is like - not at all.)

It just that that part isn't true. Europeans are, by and large, in favour of US sanctions against Russia, which align with their own sanctions against Russia. To say otherwise is false. (To say it shouldn't be so, is simply to express an opinion.)

 

[SunTrader]

Norway and the U.S. among other countries have stepped up. Energy shortage is a nothingburger the right wingnut media cooked up.

 

[TheDawn]

Well, they are just going to have to figure out a way to get energy.
Not like this is any kind of surprise.
Politicians throw so much BS around, no point in slicing/dicing.
Just see what happens.

Don't worry the West will figure out a way. Many of the innovations stem from desperate needs. The West including the evil evil USA will invent a form of sustainable alternative energy and then China will copy it after stealing it and use it to grow even stronger and finally dominate the world. There you go. New world orders. Everybody is happy. LOL

 

[Overnight]

...
There was a made for TV movie in early 1980s.
"The Day After" , Jason Robard
It's about NUKEs hitting the U.S.
I saw it that night. I almost had to vomit.

It is that movie, along with Wargames that make me have to believe we will not have a nuclear exchange anywhere on the planet, because surely the leaders of these unstable countries have seen them. They somehow see everything else the West produces.

 

[furtunious]

He is fkn propaganda bot. I know him.

 

[d08]

Without the USA's involvement, EU was perfectly fine with Russia invading Ukraine, an independent democratic country and threatening the peace of the entire Europe.

That's just not true at all. But US has it easier as its isolated from the non-monetary consequences. Many countries have taken 6-7% of refugees in relation to their population. Imagine US took in 20 million people in 8 months and had to provide housing, schooling, health care etc. It's a massive cost from every aspect, it's more straining on the local population than just giving funding.

 

[TheDawn]

That's just not true at all. But US has it easier as its isolated from the non-monetary consequences. Many countries have taken 6-7% of refugees in relation to their population. Imagine US took in 20 million people in 8 months and had to provide housing, schooling, health care etc. It's a massive cost from every aspect, it's more straining on the local population than just giving funding.

I was being sarcastic against our favourite Chinese propagandist.

 

[d08]

Really.
I thought they are all reverting to burning firewood.
But whatever. All the he-said-she-said will stop within 3 or 4 months.
At which time, the EU citizens can reflect on living in the dark and in the cold.
The old fashioned way.
Or they can get friendly with the Russians.
Seems they will never get any energy from the U.S.
The new LNG terminals are nightmares when it comes to permitting.
EPA, etc
Can't be too safe.

Unless you're trolling on the level I don't understand, you're severely misinformed and not understanding that energy is very much global. Re, LNG terminals in Europe, some are already near-ready to take deliveries and others are months away from completion. Worst thing that can happen is buying Middle Eastern gas which is plentiful. Only question is price.

 

[albion]

US sanctions hit Europe very hard

One of the biggest effects of Russia's current expansionism is the drastic acceleration of movement in Europe away from oil-based energy. This in the mid and long term is beneficial to Europe. So, they have Putin to thank for that. America should do the same.