Throw your partisanship out the window...

Burtakus · Feb 14, 2006

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Looks the analogy went over your head.

Swoooosh.....

I understand you analogy completely. I happen to think that it is a very poor analogy and for all practical sense irrelevant.

Conversely, I quess my line of questioning was a bit beyond your comprehension. Either that or you know that you have no valid response so feel the need to avoid the discussion.

ZZZzzzzzzz · Feb 14, 2006

It is a perfect analogy, because it goes to the issue, how to communicate effectively with someone who is not being reasonable.

It is not irrelevant at all.

Your "line" of questioning was juvenille, in my opinion of course, and went more to rhetorical questions, than some open minded seeking to know.

Weren't you the guy who once threatened to beat me up because of my opinions?

LOL.....

Quote from Burtakus:

I understand you analogy completely. I happen to think that it is a very poor analogy and for all practical sense irrelevant.

Conversely, I quess my line of questioning was a bit beyond your comprehension. Either that or you know that you have no valid response so feel the need to avoid the discussion.

Ivanovich · Feb 14, 2006

Quote from sulong:

I see.
I think the thing is is that I'm reading it as if I'm looking over the shoulder of the author,( think detached observer) whereas you seem to be reading the same thing as an entertained reader. ( think participant)

You may think whatever it is you want to think.

sulong · Feb 14, 2006

Quote from Ivanovich:

You may think whatever it is you want to think.

The important part is, at least one of us "thinks".

Thanks for sharing your enlightened views with us.

Burtakus · Feb 14, 2006

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

It is a perfect analogy, because it goes to the issue, how to communicate effectively with someone who is not being reasonable.

It is not irrelevant at all.

Your "line" of questioning was juvenille, in my opinion of course, and went more to rhetorical questions, than some open minded seeking to know.

Weren't you the guy who once threatened to beat me up because of my opinions?

LOL.....

The big difference is that my wife and I, while idealogically different look after the best interests of one another and that of the family. That relationship dynamic is not present in the Western world/Islmaic world. I am all for analogies, can you provide me with one that is valid to the situation?

My line of questioning, while partially rhetorical, does highlight real world issues between fanaticla Islam and Western society. Do you deny this?

No, I do not recall ever threatening to beat you up.

ZZZzzzzzzz · Feb 14, 2006

You don't recall the threat?

Must have been some other 6 foot 4 inch 245 pound man....

I have provided a valid analogy, you don't get it and/or don't agree with it.

When it comes to fanaticism, whether it is child who fanatically wants something, a wife who is fanatically wanting something, a Christian fanatic, a Muslim fanatic, it really doesn't matter.

The approach is the same, you have to try to understand them if you want to get anywhere with communication, or you can try to muscle them, which is how many deal with kids and wives.....

Telling someone that they are fanatical and wrong, just plain doesn't work...yet that's exactly what Bush has done.

Quote from Burtakus:

The big difference is that my wife and I, while idealogically different look after the best interests of one another and that of the family. That relationship dynamic is not present in the Western world/Islmaic world. I am all for analogies, can you provide me with one that is valid to the situation?

My line of questioning, while partially rhetorical, does highlight real world issues between fanaticla Islam and Western society. Do you deny this?

No, I do not recall ever threatening to beat you up.