Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Christians are so damn touchy and emotional.
Maimonides was talking about his concept of God (based on the Old Testament) and the Christians get all defensive because his position doesn't jibe with theirs...
Typical.
Christians aren't the most tolerant religious group in history...and quoting the "New International Version" of the Bible in a discussion of Maimonides' Old Testament is so flawed as to be ridiculous.
Go to the text Maimonides was working from...in the original language.
You aren't going to find "our image, our likeness, etc."
Typical, so typical of religious people to alter scriptures as the languages change and on that basis religion's materialistic leaders pervert the nature of the work to push their own materialistic belief on materialistic people...
Jesus Christ, you quote a newly written Christian version of the Old Testament to argue with Maimonides?
How pathetic...
I don't see Maimonides was arguing for anything but his own take on God...has nothing to do with me.
I merely quoted it to demonstrate to one of the atheists that purely intellectual arguments on the nature of God have existed for quite a long time...
I am not a Jew, not a Christian...but I would never say that Judaism or Christianity (in their original form) were wrong.
Just as I won't argue that Newton was wrong...things are true from their own material level, and not necessarily true at a different material level.
God is beyond any level though, so people at their own material levels try to describe God who is beyond the concept of levels, "illogically" existing at all levels at all times, and at no particular level at any particular time, with no respect to higher or lower levels...
To imply a level suggests that there are separate parts of God which are not the whole itself.
It won't make any sense to the human mind, as the human mind is glued into the material senses, levels, duality, etc.
God is whole, and God is the parts, and each of the parts have the exact same value as the whole...there is no difference between the parts and the whole when it comes to God.
So to attack a part of God is to attack the whole of God...which makes no sense as God in not separate from any whole or partial value...
All places, no place, all times, no time, nothing larger, nothing smaller, no size, no dimensions, all dimensions...
To the human mind it has to appear as a contradiction, because the human mind is glued into time and space...God is beyond the constraints of time and space.
So if you want to believe in a Trinity...that's fine. If Maimonides wants to believe in a singularity, that's fine with me as well. I can see the point of view of unity, duality, a trinity quite easily.
God has no material form, yet is ever present in every material form...God has a form that is not material, yet is also formless, timeless, space-less, etc....God can create a stone so heavy He can't lift it yet He is lifting it in the same place at the same time...
None of this makes sense to a limited thinker...just as a third dimension makes no sense to a circle drawn on a flat sheet of paper...
