Professional data feed for personal account

[Maverick2608]

A corporation of course has to pay for professional data feed.

In the old days I’m quite sure you did not have to pay professional data feed for your personal account if you had a corporate account that only invested your own funds.

Has that changed?

 

[Robert Morse]

I can't speak for the old days, as I'm not sure when the exchanges even started to charge for real-time market data. Today, they deem market data as a profit center. The Professional Market Data feed is the standard. If you want the Non-Professional exemption, you have to fill out the non-pro questionnaire and qualify. E.G. This is from NASDAQ. "All non-professional subscribers of a Distributor or Client Organization must submit this form to NASDAQ OMX to qualify for Non-Professional rates." The NYSE and NASDAQ only offer Non-Professional rates to any natural person who receives market data solely for his/her personal, nonbusiness use and who is not a “Securities Professional.” That means all entities pay Professional Market Data fees. Even Trusts are not a natural person and do not get non-pro rates.

 

[southall]

A corporation of course has to pay for professional data feed.

In the old days I’m quite sure you did not have to pay professional data feed for your personal account if you had a corporate account that only invested your own funds.

Has that changed?

For futures CME link below seems to suggest a small corporate account (trading own funds) is not classed as professional for data fees.

However IB did not seem to care or cant be bothered to differentiate between different exchange rules. If you have a corporate account then you are subject to pro fees.

https://www.cmegroup.com/market-dat...it-a-to-schedule-4-non-pro-self-cert-form.pdf

 

[Robert Morse]

Correct. We use that sheet for most of our futures platforms. But notice that Professional is still the standard and you must qualify to get Non-pro. Not the other way around.

Professional

or futures CME link below seems to suggest a small corporate account (own funds) is not classed as professional for data fees.

However IB did seem to care or cant be bothered to differentiate between different exchange rules. If you have a corporate account then you must be pro.

https://www.cmegroup.com/market-dat...it-a-to-schedule-4-non-pro-self-cert-form.pdf

 

[maxinger]

worse, I have to pay data fee

for the various trading platforms
AND
for charting software

 

[Robert Morse]

Find one platform with great charts and pay once. Eze EMS (formerly RealTick) has the best charting that we offer, but Lightspeed and Sterling are still very good. https://www.lightspeed.com/trading-platforms/realtick-pro-and-express/realtick-platform-features/ When I say best I'm referring to the most studies and time intervals.

worse, I have to pay data fee

for the various trading platforms
AND
for charting software

 

[maxinger]

Find one platform with great charts and pay once. Eze EMS (formerly RealTick) has the best charting that we offer, but Lightspeed and Sterling are still very good. https://www.lightspeed.com/trading-platforms/realtick-pro-and-express/realtick-platform-features/ When I say best I'm referring to the most studies and time intervals.

most of the charting software use time based candle sticks.
I need volume based candle sticks..

 

[Maverick2608]

I can't speak for the old days, as I'm not sure when the exchanges even started to charge for real-time market data. Today, they deem market data as a profit center. The Professional Market Data feed is the standard. If you want the Non-Professional exemption, you have to fill out the non-pro questionnaire and qualify. E.G. This is from NASDAQ. "All non-professional subscribers of a Distributor or Client Organization must submit this form to NASDAQ OMX to qualify for Non-Professional rates." The NYSE and NASDAQ only offer Non-Professional rates to any natural person who receives market data solely for his/her personal, nonbusiness use and who is not a “Securities Professional.” That means all entities pay Professional Market Data fees. Even Trusts are not a natural person and do not get non-pro rates.

I am sorry if I was unclear.

The corporation investing only my personal funds of course has to pay for the professional data feed.

I am uncertain whether my personal account in addition will be charged professional data feed, if I for tax reasons set up a corporation to invest some of my funds through that vehicle.

 

[Robert Morse]

That would be up to your broker, how you log in and their data provider.

I am sorry if I was unclear.

The corporation investing only my personal funds of course has to pay for the professional data feed.

I am uncertain whether my personal account in addition will be charged professional data feed, if I for tax reasons set up a corporation to invest some of my funds through that vehicle.

 

[southall]

I am sorry if I was unclear.

The corporation investing only my personal funds of course has to pay for the professional data feed.

I am uncertain whether my personal account in addition will be charged professional data feed, if I for tax reasons set up a corporation to invest some of my funds through that vehicle.

With IB I have to self certify once a year that my personal account data feed wont be used for other purposes. They popup a web form.