POLL: What is Your Position Sizing Method???

What is Your PRIMARY Position Sizing Method

  • Fixed Ratio

    Votes: 17 18.7%
  • Fixed Fractional/Fixed Risk

    Votes: 31 34.1%
  • Kelly formula

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • I keep my trading capital constant

    Votes: 6 6.6%
  • Optimal F

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • Larry Williams formula

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Bob Spears

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • I use a combination of the above

    Votes: 4 4.4%
  • Huh?

    Votes: 25 27.5%

  • Total voters
    91
Quote from rcanfiel:

More often then not, they are used to demonstrate how to allow one to retire in a year from trading a $5,000 account.

At best, they give you an optimal reinvestment path. But a lot of bad things happen on the yellow brick road. If you ignore the Risk of Ruin and the other wicked witches, then you might find Oz...

Understanding the Risk of Ruin is, of course, paramount in trading. You "gotta leave enough to trade another day" as they say.

Don
 
I don't know if it was an option in the poll, I just don't know the name of this method.

Price: $50
Stop loss below support 49.50
Amount of risk: 0.50 (Not including slippage, if any)
Max amount I feel comfortable losing: $1000.00

0.50 * $1000.00 = 500 shares. Is there a name for this method?
 
Quote from Sniemiec:

I don't know if it was an option in the poll, I just don't know the name of this method.

Price: $50
Stop loss below support 49.50
Amount of risk: 0.50 (Not including slippage, if any)
Max amount I feel comfortable losing: $1000.00

0.50 * $1000.00 = 500 shares. Is there a name for this method?

Better check the math. 500 shares x 50 cents = $250.

Just trying to help..

Don
 
As Don pointed out, you are not doing it right... need to divide, not multiply, total risk by per-share risk:

$1000 / $0.50 = 2000 shares.

The smaller your stop loss and the larger your max $ risk, the more shares you could trade.

Done this way, this would fall under poll option 2, Fixed Risk.
 
Applying stop-losses

So many of my learned peers support the theory of tight stop-loss methods when investing or trading. This seems to make perfect sense on the surface, but look a bit deeper. If you buy 100 shares of stock at $50, and hope to get an annual return on investment (Roi) of 12%, the stock would have to rise by $6 annually (assuming there were no dividends paid). To protect yourself from ruin, you can enter an initial stop-loss sell order to trigger at a predetermined price. How much should you limit your loss? How does this individual stock movement affect your overall portfolio?

Rather than go down the mundane road of percentage calculations based on overall bankroll (portfolio), standard deviation of historical volatility per stock/sector, and the whole number-crunching approach to what might happen if the stock were to move x percent over a t time frame, let’s take a more universal and, yes, much simpler approach.


If you didn't get a chance to read the whole thing yet, if interested, this goes into risk control more from a trading perspective than investing.
http://www.stocktrading.com/riskreward2.html

Don
 
Quote from Don Bright:

Better check the math. 500 shares x 50 cents = $250.

Just trying to help..

Don

Quote from sim03:

As Don pointed out, you are not doing it right... need to divide, not multiply, total risk by per-share risk:

$1000 / $0.50 = 2000 shares.

The smaller your stop loss and the larger your max $ risk, the more shares you could trade.

Done this way, this would fall under poll option 2, Fixed Risk.

Ya, I did it wrong. Yours is the right way.
 
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