Poll 20/30 year treasuries

Will rates on the 20 or 30 year be higher or lower at the end of 2023?


  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .
Feel free to elaborate on why if you'd like, or merely vote.

For giggles:

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Tao how’d Ian treat you? I was praying for you guys.

Thanks, brother. Wind was nasty, not a whole lot of rain, though. Lots of debris - neighborhood had some trees down. Power out for 3 days - but I had a generator. House had no damage (did my new roof back in May/June). Could have been a lot worse. Had it gone the way it was supposed to (72 hours earlier) we'd have gotten nothing but rain, but greater Tampa and St. Pete would have been beatdown. Because we are east of the city, and because it turned inland before hand to race through the state, we got all the wind and it was actually worse for us.
 
Ultra simplification of the Interest Rates scenario for the US ............

US = next Japan = 0% & below and this time given BEAR's sense of humor, RATE will go to
minus 5% = we pay Banks Interest. :cool::):D
 
Ultra simplification of the Interest Rates scenario for the US ............

US = next Japan = 0% & below and this time given BEAR's sense of humor, RATE will go to
minus 5% = we pay Banks Interest. :cool::):D

See, I think rates will eventually be lower (I voted lower) in a year, but I think that QE and ZIRP/NIRP are done for a long while.

Gotta listen to Lacy Hunt.
 
See, I think rates will eventually be lower (I voted lower) in a year, but I think that QE and ZIRP/NIRP are done for a long while.

Gotta listen to Lacy Hunt.


Thanks for that .............

this her eis the only thing I go by, no need to talk to anyone else .............

showing only TNX below cause my TYX data is messed up with errors from supplier .........

TNX hits Fibo target in A-B-C = (B). Next move is hard hard, hard DOWN DOWN after residual bullishness in the upmore exhausts - could be days or week or weeks for exhaustion to complete then down hard toward ZERO and below

The next Japan is the USA fighting DEFLATION for the next 4 decades



TNX monthly



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I think we are moving too fast right now to bother with FRED on interest rates and its slower frequency compared to FedWatch.
We have shifted up in expectations quite a bit from 9/12
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I am a fan of the stacked area chart they have in the historic data section too if you look at the most probable rates and turn off rates that have gone stale.
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I think we are moving too fast right now to bother with FRED on interest rates and its slower frequency compared to FedWatch.
We have shifted up in expectations quite a bit from 9/12
fedfunds10-12.png


I am a fan of the stacked area chart they have in the historic data section too if you look at the most probable rates and turn off rates that have gone stale.
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Dec 2023 eh? So you're just skipping the entire next 13-month period. WOW. That is what we call a bold prediction.
 
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