Orders Tied To The Bid/Ask

[2rosy]

Won't that potentially cause you to go over the 390 orders/day average and thereby becone a "professional" and lose retail priority and/or your accouny (if the broker can't handle this situation)? I don't know how these dynamic order types work, but I am guessing that if they are broker implemented, the exchanges will treat each update as a separate order, and the number of NBBO price/size changes per day on many options contracts is in 1000's+ per day (even for some that never trade). Would like to be proven wrong on this if anyone else has definite knowledge, thanks!

390 orders a day makes someone professional? CXL REPLACE isnt a separate order in broker dealer land. I never knew there was retail priority other than soes and rais

 

[Robert Morse]

Regulatory Circular RG16-064 attached. If you cancel-replace, each time you enter an order (The replace) it counts. If your broker has an option algo that is sending child orders out, but you enter one order, you need to ask your broker how they count that. It might have one order ticket assigned or hundreds.

390 orders a day makes someone professional? CXL REPLACE isnt a separate order in broker dealer land. I never knew there was retail priority other than soes and rais

 

[2rosy]

Regulatory Circular RG16-064 attached. If you cancel-replace, each time you enter an order (The replace) it counts. If your broker has an option algo that is sending child orders out, but you enter one order, you need to ask your broker how they count that. It might have one order ticket assigned or hundreds.

never knew. every place I worked we cxlreplace all the time. Only had issues with cme

 

[Robert Morse]

This rule does not apply to Options on futures traded on the CME. The CME has different rules.

never knew. every place I worked we cxlreplace all the time. Only had issues with cme

 

[FSU]

Anyone wondering how bad it is to exceed the 390 average in options, I can tell you, from experience, it is bad. Very Bad.
You will be designated a Pro Customer for the next quarter. You will lose customer priority. You will pay higher exchange fees. And worst of all, MM's will not want to trade with you. They can see this designation in your order. Not necessarily an issue trading a very liquid ticker and taking out an offer/bid but when I was putting spread orders in less liquid tickers, they had no interest in trading with me, at almost any price.

Also, some brokers may not want you as a customer.