Lack of Short Orders on NYSE

Quote from Steve Tvardek:

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Havent heard of new hedging techniques, although I'm not really in the loop. Just trying to make a living day to day :D

^^^^^
Good man with the right priorities!
 
Another reason could be that market volatility continues to drift or that the market is just less attractive for short sellers. It could also be related to the stocks you're watching in particular.

One thing for sure, tape readers in my office who were used to bring-in thousands everyday day last winter they're nowhere close to those levels today. The intraday risk/reward ratio has changed and that's also true for big players.
 
I've noticed this as well.

IMO, what we're seeing is a larger and larger portion of the buyside starting to use smart algos to route orders instead of just sending the whole thwop at market. Makes sense, I would be doing it if I were them... always seemed idiotic to just let an order go like that.

Also, for the comments on stacking the book... this is done by a lot of traders/hedge funds, so you shouldn't automatically assume it's the specialist.

Quote from Billy Valentine:

Have any NYSE tape readers out there observed fewer short orders following stocks down on the open book? It seems to me there have been fewer short sellers since the start of the year. Also, has anyone heard of any different methods that daytrading firms are using to get around the downtick rules?

Thanks
 
Quote from onelot:

I've noticed this as well.

IMO, what we're seeing is a larger and larger portion of the buyside starting to use smart algos to route orders instead of just sending the whole thwop at market. Makes sense, I would be doing it if I were them... always seemed idiotic to just let an order go like that.
Agree, that's probably the main reason. Algorithmic trading and lack of retail volume have the largest impact on market volatility IMO. But I also believe that if the retail market comes back those program things they're all going down the drain. When you have 1 thousand buyers stepping in at the same time and they want the stock now there is now fucking trading algorithm that's gonna hold the price down.
 
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