When 2 conservatives share a POV with 80% of liberals - it's still a liberal, not a conservative position, isn't it? And it a known fact that Clinton was a DINO. I am still puzzled why he was hated so much by right wingers.Quote from jem:
Now regarding this stuff. limits on free trade and outsourcing seemed to be the calling card of Perot and Buchanon. It was clinton who set that ball rolling with nafta was it not?
Not really:Quote from jem:
And as far as a womens right to choose being supported by a majority of americans. Last time I read the stats the majority of americans did not support an unfettered right to choose. The only majority was with respect to abortion after rape. The majority of americans favor less access to fetus killing.
That's too convenient for you to have republcians move to the right and the dems move to the right, isn't it. Isn't that what conservatives really want - that the entire political spectrum move to the right. Expecting the dems to move to the right exactly when republicans have disgraced themselves by supporting Bush and all his stupid policies is wishful thinking though. Besides it just does not work that way, I doubt the dems would attract moderate republicans but they would definitely piss off half of their core constituency.Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
But if they did move to the center and were at least somewhat credible with it, they'd attract enough disillusioned republican voters to be in control.
What about people that tend to vote Repub and are also pro- gay rights and are for the complete legalization of all drugs? Am I the only ACLU card holding member on this board that still votes Republican?03-29-06 08:49 PM
as far as a "womans right to choose", i am repub and i am also prochoice
it is the REPUBS that accept pro-choicers within their ranks
the dems do not accept prolifers within theirs.
so, your point is weak on that regards
repub convention even had guiliani and arnold as key speakers. both prochoice repubs.
not one prolife dem at any convention is allowed to speak
compare - contrast
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i think the ACLU sux for a # of reasons, but a LOT of repubs are for the decrim of mj.
national review, the repub "flagship" was for decrim of MJ for decades and still is - generally.
i am basically a right moderate with libertarian tendencies but NOT a (capital L) Libertarian.
the Libertarian party is kinda silly, but libertarian philosophy - there needs to be more of that - both dems and repubs tend to be statists.
bush is a right moderate statist.
clinton was a left moderate statist...
etc.
tangential to the issue that MJ should be decrim'd, what pisses me off is an activist supreme court - Kelo, etc. that strips us of rights.
i was totally dissapointed in scalia for the latest medical mj case. now whether or not you are for or against Medical MJ, it is CLEARLY a state's rights issue
it is NOT a commerce clause issue, as that case claimed. how can the scotus claim the DEA has federal jurisdiction over a drug that somebody grows in their backyard within state boundaries, and uses (under prescription) for personal use.
sorry, that is NOT a commerce clause thang. and i was disgusted iwth the scotus - as usual.
repubs and dems both tend to be statist. they both want to strip rights. they just tend to be somewhat different as to which ones.
also, the ACLU does not support civil rights. just certain civil rights that they like. they are weak on gun rights, and their (and Amnesty Internationals) campaign against Tasers is enuf to make me give up on the ACLU.
tasers are the most humane invention in law enforcement (and have saved hundreds of lives) ever.
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i think the ACLU sux for a # of reasons, but a LOT of repubs are for the decrim of mj.
national review, the repub "flagship" was for decrim of MJ for decades and still is - generally.
i am basically a right moderate with libertarian tendencies but NOT a (capital L) Libertarian.
the Libertarian party is kinda silly, but libertarian philosophy - there needs to be more of that - both dems and repubs tend to be statists.
bush is a right moderate statist.
clinton was a left moderate statist...
etc.
repubs and dems both tend to be statist. they both want to strip rights. they just tend to be somewhat different as to which ones.
also, the ACLU does not support civil rights. just certain civil rights that they like. they are weak on gun rights, and their (and Amnesty Internationals) campaign against Tasers is enuf to make me give up on the ACLU.