Goodbye American Production (and Maybe Innovation, Too)

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We are simply shifting jobs to higher paying professions.

This quote has one little error it should read.

We are simply shifting jobs to lower paying professions.

Part of being a service economy is paying lots of retail and food serving wages, when you lose manufacturing you lose the higher paying jobs and the benefits. That's why housing remains so important and on everyone's radar the builders, the craftsmen, the plumbers, the electrical, the pool diggers, the landscaping they all take in some of the highest wages in that America has to offer at the moment.
 
...For the next few hundred years, the USA is Rome. China is one tenth our size, and paranoid about civil war. Do the math Gents.
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Or the history:

Rome collapsed, from many internal problems. Was occupied by invadors* from less than 5% of the territory it dominated.

I expect the collapse, but not the occupation, is US fate, as history seldom repeats exactly.
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*before that happened Its own army, under Caesar took charge, destroying their version of democracy.
You are correct US army is by far world's most powerful. If they feel the need to straighten out the mess Washington has made they can do it more quickly than Ceasar did - a few Tomahawks well placed in DC and they are in charge. - I do not see this aspect of history repeating, but mention it to show that a strong army is not any guarantee of the government you want, especially if economic collapse has made it impossible to pay the soldiers, buy the generals new toys, etc.
 
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As retired physics professor, I am no doubt biased, but think the root cause of US decline article fears is in the attitude of college students. Too many want the easy wealth being a corporate lawyer or Wall Street type, etc can bring and too few are willing to work hard in the science and technical areas. Perhaps this transformation of attitudes started in grade school, when learning had to fun and easy with audio/visuals etc.

What ever the cause, it concerned me enough to write a cosmic horror story Dark Visitor as a vehicle to teach some physics to people who would never knowingly open a science book. I wanted to scare these “would be executives” that their world is soon ending. (By a physically possible change in the Earth’s Climate. - A new rapid-onset ice age, caused by a small black hole passing by the solar system.) The story is presented as a report from an astronomer, who has just analyses slight perturbations in Pluto’s orbit. The approaching black hole can not be seen as it reflects zero light. It is the gravitational companion of one that may have passed by solar system in late 1920s. That one could explain the perturbation observed in Neptune’s orbit, which lead to the discovery of Pluto. Pluto, with mass much larger than the Earth, was thought to be the cause for more than a decade, but now Pluto is known to be smaller than the moon, so Neptune’s perturbation is unexplained. This fact and fact most star sized black holes, like stars themselves, are gravitationally bound pairs is the foundation of my story.

More details at www.DarkVisitor.com including both how to read for free and a list of all the physics hidden in the book.

If you know of young college student planning to become a high-paid executive* etc, instead of a very satisfying carrier in science, tell him/her of this site.
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*They will not if the US collapses economically.
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I agree with your post. It's a well known fact that U.S. schools have failed and will continue to produce non-competitive workers who will no doubt be outdone by someone in Asia who's very life depends on how fast he can make shoes.

Our culture has stressed that it's not cool to be smart. That it's geeky to be intelligent. How sad. It's this same attitude of junk tv, fast food, and consumerism that is taking us on the confortable road to ruin.

I think Science and Technology need to be stressed at the earliest. However there is too much freedom in U.S. for most to care about these matters. They leave it to the poloticos in DC to worry about it however, they are too worried about which corporation has donated the most of which K Street lobbyist has given them the best steak.

The answer begins at home.
 
I'm thinking about adding a pool once the ground thaws in the spring, can you give me the contact information for your offshore pool digger? Oh wait, that whole global warming thing means my midwest earth isn't frozen and I could put your offshore pool digger to work now! Sweet, I love global warming!

TIA

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PS - How long does it take to swim the Pacific from India...I need a quick turn around on this job!

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Part of being a service economy is paying lots of retail and food serving wages, when you lose manufacturing you lose the higher paying jobs and the benefits. That's why housing remains so important and on everyone's radar the builders, the craftsmen, the plumbers, the electrical, the pool diggers, the landscaping they all take in some of the highest wages in that America has to offer at the moment.
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Here's the acid test: if you believe so strongly that China will take over the world, would you buy a basket of ETF's that invests in China or in ETF's that are based in the USA assuming you had to hold onto it for 30 years? Most, I would guess, on this thread would not actually believe in China enough to put their money where their mouth was given the choice...
 
free markets will always win, always! Chinese don't have not adjusted their currency accordingly, or let market dominate. They will soon be suffering like the asian contagion of 97 or the mexican meltdown of 94. Both followed by good times for us. Do you remember?
 
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