For the hypocrites who use the "chicken hawk" slur

[Covertibility]

Amusing thread. A majority of the chicken hawks are republican. "Don't make fun of the cowards" would've been a better title of the article.

Shoot a gun and watch them all hide under the table asking for daddy to save them.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

When issues are discussed openly and honestly, liberals usually lose. That is because ordinary voters live in the real world and understand that policies not rooted in reality will fail. Liberal solutions, many of which are no doubt well-intentioned, typically are based more on feelings and a desire to seize the moral high ground than on reality.

To address this problem, liberals have developed an entire cottage industry devoted to making policy disagreements off limits for political debate. Really, that is the genesis of the whole political correctness facism. So, on race issues, rather than discuss them, just call anyone who disagrees with you a racist. On welfare, call them a racist or mean-spirited. On immigration, call then a racist or a nativist, or squelch debate by intoning that "we're a nation of immigrants." And of course, on defense issues call them a McCarthyite or, if they support a war you oppose, a...chickenhawk.

And if you find it being turned around on you, say if a military hero like Bill Clinton wants to bomb a country that has been our ally and never posed a threat to us, accuse them of being in favor of genocide. And be sure to also decry the politics of personal destruction, name calling and ad hominem arguments.

Your not running for president are you?
I think I finally found someone I could vote for!

 

[neophyte321]

Quote from Covertibility:

Amusing thread. A majority of the chicken hawks are republican. "Don't make fun of the cowards" would've been a better title of the article.

Shoot a gun and watch them all hide under the table asking for daddy to save them.

..... suprised someone hasn't stated the obvious. The vast majority of the military tend to vote republican.....


that's not to say, there would be no benefit in having actual war experience before making the decision to go to war..... (John "Double Talk" Kerry excluded)

the war, while going poorly, is probably not as bad as the hysterical ranters of the world would have us believe.

I'm still hopeful for a long-term positive result.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from claywilk:

Man, since I was in the Army and have a degree in politcal science can't I at least be a bantum hawk?

LOL, I don't know about bantumhawk, but we'll elevate you beyond gerbilhawk......how's hamsterhawk?

BTW my labeling of chicken hawk would not apply to anyone who didn't serve that supported a war.

Congratulations, you're not a moonbat!

But, this war was poorly conceived by a president with a chip on his shoulder.... He is a damn chickenhawk.

Your opinion, which I disagree with yet respect your right to have.

 

[Madison]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

To address this problem, liberals have developed an entire cottage industry devoted to making policy disagreements off limits for political debate. Really, that is the genesis of the whole political correctness facism. So, on race issues, rather than discuss them, just call anyone who disagrees with you a racist. On welfare, call them a racist or mean-spirited. On immigration, call then a racist or a nativist, or squelch debate by intoning that "we're a nation of immigrants." And of course, on defense issues call them a McCarthyite or, if they support a war you oppose, a...chickenhawk.

absolutely right - up until the last sentence.

"chickenhawk" is not a synonym for "pro war on iraq," and doesn't mean "civilian." it relates instead to men who not only did not serve, but actively AVOIDED serving (mostly thanks to unearned privilege and political connections) while others went in their place - these same men who later aggressively solicit for unjustified war to be fought by others, knowing that they themselves are safe from any risk.

these men who say things like "bring em on," taunting enemies from the safety of 24-hr security details, knowing their own children will never have to bear the burden of their wars.

men who slap every veteran in the face by saying things like: "I had other priorities in the sixties than military service." – Dick Cheney, on his five draft deferments, April 5, 1989

 

[riserburn]

Quote from hapaboy:

`It's touching that you're so concerned about the military in Iraq," a reader in Wyoming e-mails in response to one of my columns on the war. ``But I have a suspicion you're a phony. So tell me, what's your combat record? Ever serve?"

I noticed he never answered the question. He just came up with excuse after excuse about why he shouldn't.

"Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack."
- George S. Patton -

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from riserburn:

I noticed he never answered the question. He just came up with excuse after excuse about why he shouldn't.

Your reading skills could use some beefing up. He is hardly making excuses...

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Covertibility:

Amusing thread. A majority of the chicken hawks are republican. "Don't make fun of the cowards" would've been a better title of the article.

Shoot a gun and watch them all hide under the table asking for daddy to save them.

amen

 

[ratboy88]

Quote from Madison:

absolutely right - up until the last sentence.

"chickenhawk" is not a synonym for "pro war on iraq," and doesn't mean "civilian." it relates instead to men who not only did not serve, but actively AVOIDED serving (mostly thanks to unearned privilege and political connections) while others went in their place - these same men who later aggressively solicit for unjustified war to be fought by others, knowing that they themselves are safe from any risk.

these men who say things like "bring em on," taunting enemies from the safety of 24-hr security details, knowing their own children will never have to bear the burden of their wars.

men who slap every veteran in the face by saying things like: "I had other priorities in the sixties than military service." – Dick Cheney, on his five draft deferments, April 5, 1989

amen again

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from Madison:

...men who slap every veteran in the face by saying things like: "I had other priorities in the sixties than military service." – Dick Cheney, on his five draft deferments, April 5, 1989

Who, if they did not aspire to a career in the military, would say otherwise if they were being honest?

How is that a "slap" to every veteran in the face?!?

I'm a veteran, and it doesn't bother me one bit. Should every Sec. of Defense, in your opinion, have to have been in the military?