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Ex-NFL player Tillman killed in Afganistan
- Thread starter aphexcoil
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"Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to."
Quote from I Missed Boat:
And actually, the US simply funded the rebel group for being a rebel group. We didn't actually radicalize anyone, and we supported what became the Northern Alliance and others just as much as we supported what became the Taliban. .
Well, I don't think "we" radicalized anyone, directly. But I'm sure that the CIA would have understood the recruiting power of radical islam and let it take its course from there. Afterall, it was the 'Mujahedeen' we were supporting, a specific reference to Islamic holy warriors; meaning we were well aware of the role of radical islam in the resistance.
Quote from NihabaAshi:
Dr. Trader,
You can use Google search engine and type in key words like Navy Seal Athlete, Army Ranger Athlete, Air Force Athlete, Army Olympic Trials, Navy Olympic Trials, World Cup, USATF, Green Beret, Boxing, Judo, Rowing, Wrestling, Track and Field, Armed Forces Champion, State Champion et cetera.
Throw in other key words like Iraq, Afganistan, Gulf War et cetera...
To get lots and lots of current and past names.
However, if you need a specific names...
Scott Helvenston
http://www.actiongear.com/agcatalog/Scott.html
http://www.sealtraining.com/index.php?screen=resume
Scott was a World Champion Pentathlete he was also a state champion in a particular sport but I can't remember what.
Three other names of soldiers currently serving in elite units...
John McAllister (Track and Field)
Jerry Ingalls (Track and Field)
*John Collett (water polo)
*He's back in college on a champion rowing team and will be attending USC soon...maybe still rowing.
There's also sports websites that list past team members (World Teams, Olympic Teams, Collegiate All-Americans) that were also in the military.
I'm just guessing...if you dig hard enough...you can find over +100 names of those currently in the military or of the recent past.
NihabaAshi
Thank you for the information. While every life is important, it is important to note that Pat Tillman was part of a very, very few select athletes who gave up multi million dollar contracts to serve his country.