Ex-NFL player Tillman killed in Afganistan

Quote from rowenwood:

Tillman had experienced a lot. He had his pick of women; he had the finest of everything. I guess, he joined the army because he was bored with life.

Tillman wanted new and better experiences. These wanted experiences were had on the battlefield. He wanted to experience what it feels like to shoot someone. He wanted a more pure and primitive life. He wanted to indulge in his primitive killer instincts. This is a common philosophical psychological pattern.
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Or maybe, as all of those close to him say, he was moved by September 11th and a sense of duty and service, so he enlisted (and note that he enlisted, rather than becoming an officer). Now where did you derive your conclusions as to his motives from?
 
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I don't know, and neither do you. Either way, I admire him for the decisions he made. Or do you?
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No, we don't know. We just know he HAPPENED to leave the NFL right after September 11th. Hmmmmmmm!

I think aphex made it clear he admired him. But it was hard to tell what you thought given the leaps in your assumptions about his motives.
 
Quote from Maverick74:

A true hero. Where most of us like to talk tough on ET and pretend to be foreign policy experts, Pat took action. He actually did something about it. He turned down the money, the fame, the glory, all to do what he thought needed to be done. There was no book deal, no hollywood movie rights, no public relations stunt. There was no ulterior motive. September 11, 2001 changed him like it did a lot of us, the only difference is he did something that 99.9% of us would never do. He took the road less traveled. Pat Tillman is survived by his wife and his teammates that will never look at the game of football the same way ever again. A true American hero. God bless.
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Are you suggesting that all of these "courageous" and "selfless" athletes, movie stars, and even us ETers who are "survivors" that have overcome divorce, bulimia, poor performances, root canals, hemroids, and other great tragedies, are not the true heroes? :)
 
There is nothing heroic about going out to Afganistan to kill a bunch of Taliban, who we ourselves had funded and set-up...

It's just house cleaning... Tillman is a mere footsoldier, tidying up the mess that we created... he ain't a hero...

True heros are people like Nelson Mandela and Schinder (as in Schindler's List) who actually fought for humanity, not for control of land space in order to lay a bunch of oil pipelines from the Caspian Sea reserves...
 
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No, we don't know. We just know he HAPPENED to leave the NFL right after September 11th. Hmmmmmmm!

I think aphex made it clear he admired him. But it was hard to tell what you thought given the leaps in your assumptions about his motives.
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I don't know if he's a hero, obviously a lot of poeple consider him to be. I think joining the rangers to seek revenge for fellow citizens is an act that has been similarly demonstrated throughout history.

I admire the abiltiy and desire to kill. As I've previously stated, I only support environmentally responsible modes of death.

I find terrorists and religions to be amazingly primitive and stupid to such an extent that I'd never join to fight them for revenge, I'd join to experience
battle and death. I'd go for the enlightenment.

I'm not a sadist, I've never killed anything larger than a fish. I'd rather kill a person than a tree because trees are perfect and necessary in contrast to people whom are plentiful, thus expendable.

I'd love to go and fight. At age 19 I was denied entry to the rangers.
 
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There is nothing heroic about going out to Afganistan to kill a bunch of Taliban, who we ourselves had funded and set-up...

It's just house cleaning... Tillman is a mere footsoldier, tidying up the mess that we created... he ain't a hero...

True heros are people like Nelson Mandela and Schinder (as in Schindler's List) who actually fought for humanity, not for control of land space in order to lay a bunch of oil pipelines from the Caspian Sea reserves...
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You are very confused.
 
Quote from Hello_Dollars:

Why do I not find that the least bit surprising?
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I think likewise about your response, "Why do I not find that the least bit surprising?"
 
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