I don’t think it’s fair for you to say I’m dishonest in saying this about your beliefs.
The dishonesty i'm mainly referencing has to do with your representation of the bible as a unified voice in favor of only one type of salvation. In fact it advertises two type of salvation 1) the salvation of mankind (or a subset thereof), or, 2)the salvation of Christ.
Your preferred type of salvation is at the expense of Christ in favor of the human archetype.
Your detested type of salvation is at the expense of the human archetype in favor of Christ.
Here are Jesus own words in this regard:
"Whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. "
Thus, salvation is for Christ, as clear as a mountain stream.
Perhaps none of the collection of legacy lore known as the "old testament" (to the neo-Judeo faction) supports the salvation of Christ at the expense of the human archetype, except to say that Adam fell asleep, and, having never woken up, the whole lie-brary is a description of Adam's terrible dream, in which Good is misrepresented (blasphemed) and bloodshed (war) follows.
So it (the text), like the world it lives in, is dark, like a grimoire of black magic spells.
Comes now Jesus, a ray of light in a dark world filled with dark texts, saying, "Come to me you who are weary (of the darkness) and follow me (follow my example)".
This message was sent to men whose minds were filled with darkness, and in their interpretations of his message, they surrounded the message with their dark interpretations, still asleep under the spell of "Adam".
Comes now Jesus, first to wake up (resurrect), making him the "second Adam", so to speak, the first to awaken out of all that has gone asleep. Following Jesus, all will awaken. Not following Jesus they will remain asleep within the first Adam, so-to-speak.
"Awaken ye who sleep in Christ" is a lost scripture which speaks of the sleep of Adam, and now, reveals that it is the sleep of Christ (not Adam) that promulgates blasphemy against Good, with resulting bloodshed (war).
Alas, the entire "old testament" is simply a record of various aspects of the dream as they pertain to but one lineage of peoples. Is any of it true? Only if the dream is true. If you think the dream is true, you are still asleep, ignoring the call for all the weary to "follow me".
I did not realize that you believe in 1% of the Bible, although with an interpretation that you say goes completely against all the texts the surround it.
Comes Jesus, a ray of light in a dark un-reality, whose bright message has been obfuscated by the dark interpretations of all those who still believe the dream is true (that the "old testament" has anything positive/true to represent).
As a result, about 99% of the text (the con-text) about Jesus are still dark, like the minds that interpreted his sayings, and 1% of it still shines like a lone candle in the darkness.
The con-text is all in favor of saving the human archetype, no matter what or who it must sacrifice. It will sacrifice lambs, or Christ, as it doesn't give a damn.
I would not describe this as a "belief in 1% of the bible". It's an observation that your own worshiped context is choking on a gnat, having a hard time swallowing what Jesus has said about salvation. I see the context as a kind of beast, trying to consume (destroy) what little light appeared in it's domain a couple of millenniums ago.
I would not describe this as a belief in 1% of the entire story, just an observation that the 1% of "new wine" that has been swallowed by the 99% "old wineskins" has the potential to destroy it's unified fabric.
And i notice that you ignore the fact that since Jesus, the text is not fully unified in it's message.
It should seem understandable to you, I would think, that in such a case, it would legitimately appear to one like me that your beliefs contradict the Bible. I will keep this in mind for the future. Don’t forget, previously you gave this response to me, leading me to believe my assessment was correct:
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It's not so much my beliefs that contradict the con-text, its Jesus own knowledge of his Self that contradicts everything the Jewish leadership had been saying for thousands of years. Those amongst the Jews who thought Jesus was the "Messiah" tried to incorporate his message into legacy lore, only to choke on it.
I simply point out a few crumbs that were not completely swallowed into the darkness of the legacy con-text.
For example, the Lord's Supper. It is a reminder that Christ is broken (destroyed) for the human archetype to exist, so-to-speak (nothing produced by a dream actually exists). Your OK with this. I am not. The darkness is OK with this. The light is not. While the dream persists, it will continue to "sacrifice" Christ. This is not too different from vampires of lore, who, living in the dark, must drink the blood of that which lives in the light, in order for that which abides in the dark to "live" (exist, survive). As such, the Lord's Supper is a parable, which, if you interpret correctly, you will live, but if you continue to interpret wrongly (unworthily), you will surely continue to die, and be born again to die again...dead, but not quite alive either, like vampires.
I am not aware of hiding anything. I am choosing to believe the Bible’s claims about itself and I do believe it is clearly unified in it's message that people are in a rebellious state against God and only through the means He has provided, namely Jesus, can one be reconciled to God.
Your interpretation of Jesus' message does hide the actual message. I've pointed out a few example of his messages that were not completely digested by the dark monster of con-text that has swallowed it, and yet, even now, you ignore these instances, suggesting they are "off topic". These examples are more difficult to interpret in favor of your preferred type of salvation (the salvation of the human archetype, or a subset thereof), so they are ignored and hidden by false statements such as, "I do believe it (the entire collection) is unified in it's message". Whereas, it is not unified. I believe that this is a matter of honesty.
... that people are in a rebellious state against God and only through the means He has provided, namely Jesus, can one be reconciled to God.
The idea that anything else, other that Good, can exist, is presumptuous and must be confined to an ignorant dream (the dream of Adam, so-to-speak). The idea that something else can exist, AND maintain a "rebellious" state, is twice as presumptuous, and twice as dark. These presumptions serve only one purpose, to "save" the human archetype by adding details to belief in its existence. For example, details about a war in the heavens about the human archetype, increases belief in the human archetype, that it does indeed exist. Otherwise, why would the heavens fight battles for the human archetype? It must certainly exist! How could the human archetype "rebel" from the heavens if it did not exist? In this way (of thinking), the prime objective is to increase and maintain belief in the human archetype, maintaining its existence. However, all belief pumped into mankind, is taken away from the knowledge of Christ. In this way, you do sacrifice Christ by all such ignorance.
Here is a fact: Nothing can actually break the law(s) of Good. Therefore, nothing ever has.
Stories about rebellion serve only to maintain a dream state, entirely untrue, in order to preserve each character in the dream, especially the character one relates to most (one's identity within the dream).
That which dreams cannot ever be reconciled with that which is awake. Here again, you wish to maintain the characters made up within a vast dream, and thereby save (at least some of) them. The clever amongst the characters can indeed use "Jesus" as a "means" whereby to continue sleeping, so long as his message can be interpreted to support the salvation of the human archetype (or a subset thereof). But by no such means can you awaken, as did Jesus. And if you were honest, you would follow Jesus example (how to wake up) instead. The clearest example he gave, which you hide and ignore through dishonest interpretations, is that he identified himself with the Good, the entire Good, and nothing but the Good. In this embrace of Spirit, he rejected flesh as any kind of origin or destination.
I didn't comment on much of what you wrote because I would really rather not get into an argument with you over any of it. Also, this is all off topic on this thread. I would like to keep it for Christians songs only.
This thread seems to exist in a section of forum called "Religion and Spirituality", and specifically evangelizes for one type of salvation, the preservation of the human archetype or a subset thereof. This is what i am speaking to, not politics about the presidency, not cookie recipes in Chit Chat. So i believe it is on topic as long as you are advertising lyrics to songs which promote the type of salvation that Jesus spoke against.
