Besides AMP, lowest cost broker with CQG feed?

There is absolutely no law/rule/regulation against copy trades.
That's open to debate.
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Is "Copy Trade" Legal?
Bert Antonik
Bert Antonik
Forex Trader / Instructor / Trainer and Certified ESL / IELTS Teacher
Published Jan 8, 2021

Recently I was asked about the legality of "Copy Trade" providers. Here is my reply. Please note, I am not a financial attorney and this reply is purely based on my years of experience and understanding of trading the market, particularly Forex. If anyone can provide more amplifying information I welcome any and all comments.

The term "Copy Trade" is misused and misunderstood.
A copy trade can only occur between 2 or more accounts held by the same trader. For example, a trader using their own TradingView account, to do market analysis, to automatically send a trade for execution in their own live trading account is a copy trade. However, there is no such thing as an AUTOMATIC "Copy Trade" between two different accounts or an information service provider.

A trader, lazy or not, can use whatever analysis information they chose to "PLACE" a NON-Automatic trade. The responsibility for the trade is always solely on the trader.

If however, trades are being automatically placed on an account by someone or an entity that is not a licensed "Financial Advisor" and is not by definition a "Professional Trader" (A professional trader is a person or entity that is legally, buy compliance with SEC / NFA / CFTC or other Regulations, authorized to trade other peoples accounts.) then the trades placed on accounts not owned by the entity are illegal. Any entity, trading for or on behalf or for an outside account must BE a legal Financial Advisor and Professional Trader and must disclose that fact otherwise NO disclaimer provides protection.

Anyone or entity that provides "Automatic Order Placement" for an account other than their own must meet the legal requirements established by the authorizing authority in which the account resides. Therefore, for example, a person or entity outside the United States must comply with U.S. regulations if placing an order to a U.S. brokered account. This is one of the reasons why many Brokers do not accept U.S. Citizen accounts.

Most, if not all, the copy trade proponents that I have seen advertised are in violation of U.S. SEC / NFA / CFTC regulations. And particularly those who make absurd claims about profit and minimize or even avoid honestly disclosing the risk involved.

Most of us "Trade Professionally", we are "Traders", because we derive income from trading, but, just because we trade professionally, we may not be a "Professional Trader" unless legally authorized to trade other peoples accounts.

In conclusion
Traders must, without exception, always take full responsibility for any trade placed in their accounts. If you allow someone or entity other than yourself to place a trade into your account, make sure they are legally authorized to act on your behalf. In the end, if you rely on others to trade for you and things don't work out the way you expected, it's always your own fault. Make sure you always do your due diligence.
 
I'm guessing AMP will see that the trades are identical and have a problem with that. I could certainly write up a LTA that my family member would sign, but AMP isn't going to accept that.

Though if I can't find a good alternative, I might do as you suggest and ask for forgiveness if it becomes an issue for AMP.

I'd be careful with that approach.

A few years ago, I remember reading a complaint from a trader on the AMP forum:

He had a personal account at AMP and was trying to open a second account. He then mentioned something that suggested he was thinking of trading someone else's account. Not only did AMP Compliance deny his new account request, they also closed his personal account. Once that happens, there is no forgiveness, no way to reverse AMP's decision to cut you loose.

...recent regulation is that you must TRADE YOUR OWN ACCOUNT or ACCOUNTS. Multiple accounts not funded by same bank raises a red flag also multiple routing can trigger Pro Rates. you could also be trading other people funds which is not authorized or allowed.

IMO, it's not worth the risk.
 
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Copy trading is not the same as "trading for others".

Otherwise they would've shut down sites like collective2, isystems etc long time ago.

Unless you were thinking of actually accessing their accounts to trade, then that's wrong..and dumb.
 
Copy trading is not the same as "trading for others".

Otherwise they would've shut down sites like collective2, isystems etc long time ago.

Unless you were thinking of actually accessing their accounts to trade, then that's wrong..and dumb.

You understand. Thank you for having...gray.
 
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