very true. curious, what other firms are you looking at? I downloaded the demo and im seeing way less than 1 on the euro and 1.5 & less on the GBP. Going to test execution. if it's quick, i may open a live account. found some other posts as well on forexrealm where people are saying they have no problem getting in trades at the number. If that's the case, they must be offsetting directly with the banks. no fcm with a deal desk would open themselves to that type of exposure or only send that type of volume to the banks as it would eventually effect their pricing in the long run. banks tend to price better if they get more flow, both good and bad, as long the flow is substanial. If a bank starts to only get bad flow (toxic), pricing tends to widen out.