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Edmunds is the new Bob Lutz

holy moly, there is no one better than u; lol these guys make me cringe so much.

all of these upcoming cars are great (i hope) and all of them are here and in development thanks to success of Tesla there will be no end of Tesla..just the end of ICE.

this guy is basing his telsa thesis on his personal hoped for lifestyle. its surreal. he overlooks the entire industry is converting. i would get the other side maybe a little better if this was not occurring. you cannot even debate with someone only thinking of "their" lifestyle requirements

your focus is so narrow on the EV/Tesla issue my head is spinning. suffice to say; the speed , track times etc etc is simply a small part of the debate. instead of nitpicking on what you (and all the others) are missing consider that an entire (largest in the world) industry is putting...

i get why so many people ignore you. the Tesla is more efficient (132mpg equiv) runs 325 miles, more fun, safer, etc etc and it beats bmw in the below..in its first year. the Tesla beat the bmw on the track times, in addition to 0-60, 0-100-0...your ignorance is amazing.

lol, first yr tesla vs bmw m3 near ending quote from top gear " maybe Elon is not as crazy as everyone thinks"

i can dig those who rail against TSLA..its all fine. i just happen to believe its actually "them" who have too much emotion invested that stops them from seeing the reality and full scope. good luck w/ those debit spreads.

of course. but for that one negative (which it really is not cause i'm charged to a full tank from my garage nightly) ; i can give you 5 positives to EV ownership. over and over...

pecker; the 2B figure is cars that were ordered and not yet delivered. it was the European logistic delivery debacle. again; cars have an owner; they are not pre made. the figure is up 91% YOY thanks to delivery issues.

I haven't tried that yet but I'll let you know I live about 8 or 10 miles south of there.

Navigate on autopilot to a&s deli in Fairfield

No hands on the Merritt parkway not bad

i'm clearly in the minority here on Tesla as a company and the ev impact/viability; its just not cool it seems. np; its not intuitive ..just like trading the vx curve into itself; lol

my research shows 20% margin on each model 3 in last quarter. of course they net lose everywhere else. i'm not going to defend or attack the business model; just that my belief that EV's are vastly superior to ICE in every aspect which in turn benefits the end user. Tesla is just the face and...

also keep in mind this is just the beginning for EV... the charging speed is increasing, battery longevity increasing, etc etc...the established players are still not even out with their EV cars (ie: VW, F) the advantages of EV will continue to surface even with the relentless fake news from...

contra; Y has not been built yet..but if u see some get a pic!!

minimal...5% to 160,000 miles...lasts 500,000 to well over 1mm with ease so therefore that often posted remark is BS , and ignorant. https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/16/tesla-battery-packs-live-longer/ i read the negative news and also this news. the guys who talk about battery fires don't...

love them and i'm a gear head also. right now i prefer the 3 over the S ...always a smile on my face. watching these tesla threads ; granted i'm biased to the opposite side but i truly believe the fanboys like myself are far less ignorant than the people who disparage the company. i do have to...

and it gets 130mpg equiv has nil on moving parts the most amazing fun drive ever (one pedal driving for instance) etc etc superchargers everywhere the entire automotive industry going electric thanks to Tesla my second one